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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 14:25, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Tarrant effect
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There is only one academic paper using the term "Tarrant Effect" by SJ Baele, and two additional sources that cite the Baele article. There are a few verifiable "copycat" attacks, but not enough for a separate article. Ben Azura ( talk) 21:12, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and Australia. Ben Azura ( talk) 21:12, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- There was enough copycat attacks for
Category:Christchurch mosque shootings copycat crimes to be made, so surely there is enough for this. Also, Tarrant’s influence in particular is significant due to his live-streaming of the attack which was a new aspect and inspiration for others.
Genberg47 (
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21:20, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
KeepDelete Enlightened Southerner ( talk) 02:38, 21 January 2024 (UTC)- Delete The Tarrant effect is simply a made up phrase by a single person. That there are copycat crimes is beyond doubt but they have not as yet got a tag. OrewaTel ( talk) 08:17, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, original research, and glorifying the terrorist per https://www.jstor.org/stable/27158149?seq=4.- gadfium 08:35, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- I also oppose creating a redirect .- gadfium 23:56, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Agree with gadfium. WP:OR and glorifying a mass murderer. Nothing encyclopaedic here. TarnishedPath talk 09:19, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Phrase is not notable enough. Roger 8 Roger ( talk) 09:57, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as non-notable. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 15:51, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to
Christchurch mosque shootings Not notable on its own and most of it seems to be original research. Information about the "Tarrant effect" would be better suited to the Christchurch mosque shootings article.
GoldenBootWizard276 (
talk)
20:32, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- But since the Tarrant Effect doesn't exist no-one will search. Consequently a redirect will never be used.
OrewaTel (
talk)
00:04, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- The Tarrant effect is mentioned in the following sources: [1] [2] GoldenBootWizard276 ( talk) 16:22, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- But since the Tarrant Effect doesn't exist no-one will search. Consequently a redirect will never be used.
OrewaTel (
talk)
00:04, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Delete. A redirect to Christchurch mosque shootings might also be appropriate, although I cannot decide whether anything about this so-called effect might be mentioned there, and whether a redirect would be justified in the absence of anything. — Compassionate727 ( T· C) 15:20, 22 January 2024 (UTC)- I see there's a stable mention in the lead. So definitely redirect. —
Compassionate727 (
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15:26, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Where is this reference? Christchurch mosque shooting does not mention "Tarrant effect" and neither do the citations in Tarrant effect OrewaTel ( talk) 05:46, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- I see there's a stable mention in the lead. So definitely redirect. —
Compassionate727 (
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15:26, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Not something we should give any notability to. Teraplane ( talk) 22:21, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete and possibly redirect. Not independently notable and much of the material that makes up the current page appears to be original synthesis. Generalrelative ( talk) 23:43, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per the concerns raised above. Parenthetically: isn't it a real duality-of-man doozy that this neologism for worthless losers gaining fame through mass murder is named after one of said losers in a way that makes him sound like a brilliant pioneer???
jp×
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00:26, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- I do not think this should be a redirect either. jp× g 🗯️ 03:05, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: While consensus is clear against keeping this as a standalone article, it will be nice to hear more views regarding the proposed Redirect as an AtD.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 23:26, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per above. I don't think a redirect makes sense, since the phrase "Tarrant effect" does not appear in Christchurch mosque shootings. This is potentially confusing to readers. Pichpich ( talk) 19:06, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 14:25, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Tarrant effect
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There is only one academic paper using the term "Tarrant Effect" by SJ Baele, and two additional sources that cite the Baele article. There are a few verifiable "copycat" attacks, but not enough for a separate article. Ben Azura ( talk) 21:12, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and Australia. Ben Azura ( talk) 21:12, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- There was enough copycat attacks for
Category:Christchurch mosque shootings copycat crimes to be made, so surely there is enough for this. Also, Tarrant’s influence in particular is significant due to his live-streaming of the attack which was a new aspect and inspiration for others.
Genberg47 (
talk)
21:20, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
KeepDelete Enlightened Southerner ( talk) 02:38, 21 January 2024 (UTC)- Delete The Tarrant effect is simply a made up phrase by a single person. That there are copycat crimes is beyond doubt but they have not as yet got a tag. OrewaTel ( talk) 08:17, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, original research, and glorifying the terrorist per https://www.jstor.org/stable/27158149?seq=4.- gadfium 08:35, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- I also oppose creating a redirect .- gadfium 23:56, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Agree with gadfium. WP:OR and glorifying a mass murderer. Nothing encyclopaedic here. TarnishedPath talk 09:19, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Phrase is not notable enough. Roger 8 Roger ( talk) 09:57, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as non-notable. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 15:51, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to
Christchurch mosque shootings Not notable on its own and most of it seems to be original research. Information about the "Tarrant effect" would be better suited to the Christchurch mosque shootings article.
GoldenBootWizard276 (
talk)
20:32, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- But since the Tarrant Effect doesn't exist no-one will search. Consequently a redirect will never be used.
OrewaTel (
talk)
00:04, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- The Tarrant effect is mentioned in the following sources: [1] [2] GoldenBootWizard276 ( talk) 16:22, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- But since the Tarrant Effect doesn't exist no-one will search. Consequently a redirect will never be used.
OrewaTel (
talk)
00:04, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Delete. A redirect to Christchurch mosque shootings might also be appropriate, although I cannot decide whether anything about this so-called effect might be mentioned there, and whether a redirect would be justified in the absence of anything. — Compassionate727 ( T· C) 15:20, 22 January 2024 (UTC)- I see there's a stable mention in the lead. So definitely redirect. —
Compassionate727 (
T·
C)
15:26, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Where is this reference? Christchurch mosque shooting does not mention "Tarrant effect" and neither do the citations in Tarrant effect OrewaTel ( talk) 05:46, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- I see there's a stable mention in the lead. So definitely redirect. —
Compassionate727 (
T·
C)
15:26, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Not something we should give any notability to. Teraplane ( talk) 22:21, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete and possibly redirect. Not independently notable and much of the material that makes up the current page appears to be original synthesis. Generalrelative ( talk) 23:43, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per the concerns raised above. Parenthetically: isn't it a real duality-of-man doozy that this neologism for worthless losers gaining fame through mass murder is named after one of said losers in a way that makes him sound like a brilliant pioneer???
jp×
g
🗯️
00:26, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- I do not think this should be a redirect either. jp× g 🗯️ 03:05, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: While consensus is clear against keeping this as a standalone article, it will be nice to hear more views regarding the proposed Redirect as an AtD.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 23:26, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per above. I don't think a redirect makes sense, since the phrase "Tarrant effect" does not appear in Christchurch mosque shootings. This is potentially confusing to readers. Pichpich ( talk) 19:06, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.