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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 06:55, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. Ymblanter ( talk) 08:23, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep She passes WP:NSKATE because she won her country's senior national championship. - Juju ( talk) 14:45, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- NSKATE is about figure skating, and she is a speed skater.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 17:05, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Speed skating is a predominantly amateur sport; surely was in the early 1990s anyway. Then, the general clause would be that competiting on the highest level of the sport is sufficient for inclusion. The very highest level would be the Olympics, but we also need inclusion policies for the many years between Olympics. In my eyes, 2 European Championship starts and 16 World Cup outings between 1989 and 1994 are what stands out in her career. (Not the national championhsips.) Granted, her various outings probably did not make several headlines as such, but her best World Cup finish being 20th, this level of achievement seems pertinent enough for inclusion in Wikipedia. Geschichte ( talk) 17:49, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep She was one of the best Finnish speed skaters in her era. Unfortunately, most of the secondary sources of Finland of that era are not online. But already from an official history ofthe Finnish speed skating union document we can read about her several times ( see the pdf here). Also, in one of the main Finnish newspapers that has content online, >50 with her could be found: see here. However you nead to register to read the full articles. With the limited online sources of that era, we can already say she meets WP:Notability_(people)#Basic_criteria: "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability" SportsOlympic ( talk) 21:10, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per above. oncamera (talk page) 17:14, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, per above (in particular per SportsOlympic). / Julle ( talk) 15:48, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 06:55, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
Susanna Kantanen
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Fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. Ymblanter ( talk) 08:23, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Ymblanter ( talk) 08:23, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Ymblanter ( talk) 08:23, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finland-related deletion discussions. Ymblanter ( talk) 08:23, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep She passes WP:NSKATE because she won her country's senior national championship. - Juju ( talk) 14:45, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- NSKATE is about figure skating, and she is a speed skater.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 17:05, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Speed skating is a predominantly amateur sport; surely was in the early 1990s anyway. Then, the general clause would be that competiting on the highest level of the sport is sufficient for inclusion. The very highest level would be the Olympics, but we also need inclusion policies for the many years between Olympics. In my eyes, 2 European Championship starts and 16 World Cup outings between 1989 and 1994 are what stands out in her career. (Not the national championhsips.) Granted, her various outings probably did not make several headlines as such, but her best World Cup finish being 20th, this level of achievement seems pertinent enough for inclusion in Wikipedia. Geschichte ( talk) 17:49, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep She was one of the best Finnish speed skaters in her era. Unfortunately, most of the secondary sources of Finland of that era are not online. But already from an official history ofthe Finnish speed skating union document we can read about her several times ( see the pdf here). Also, in one of the main Finnish newspapers that has content online, >50 with her could be found: see here. However you nead to register to read the full articles. With the limited online sources of that era, we can already say she meets WP:Notability_(people)#Basic_criteria: "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability" SportsOlympic ( talk) 21:10, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per above. oncamera (talk page) 17:14, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, per above (in particular per SportsOlympic). / Julle ( talk) 15:48, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
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