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The result was redirect to 2017–18 South Pacific cyclone season. Per WP:ATD. The history is still there, so if somebody wants to merge anything, it's available. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:12, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Subtropical Cyclone Lexi
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Not much content that it doesn't deserve an article. Also, the storm is not special and doesn't have much impacts on land. B dash ( talk) 15:36, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Chile-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:05, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions. B dash ( talk) 06:38, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
That petition of deletion dont have sense,the article can be expanded and improve Olo72 (talk) 17:02, 30 September 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olo72 ( talk • contribs)
- Delete - As one of the main editors for South Pacific tropical cyclones, I have seriously wondered if Lexi really deserved its own article and my opinion is no. The marine weather warning centre's for the region Peru/Chili did not classify the system as a subtropical cyclone and nor did any of the other warning centres like the JTWC. In fact, it only seems to be NOAA's Satellite Analysis Branch that classified it as a subtropical cyclone and the rest of the limited amount of sources seem to show that people just jumped on the bandwagon. I feel that this would be enough for a mention in the other systems of 2017-18 South Pacific cyclone season, However, we do not include any of the other subtropical cyclones that occur in the South Pacific, as they are generally normally not classified as XXF, XXU or named, which makes me wonder if we really should mention it at all. I also wonder how much information is available without us resorting to making up records that may well be valid, but are based on our interpretation of the various databases. I also note that any damage within Chilli would have been minimal and that there probably wasn't any bar a bit of snow/rain. Jason Rees ( talk) 23:56, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - I proposed the redirect/merge for failing WP:N, and since that has failed... Nova Crystallis (Talk) 03:40, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per above and mention in other storms section Figfires Send me a message! 02:21, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Delete, Meteochile has priority at the basin where the sub-cyclone formed. If the service had not issued advisories, this article should not continue in the wiki.--🌀 Byralaal ⚕ ( +505-chat-toMe) 01:51, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- Strongly Oppose – This storm is the only one of its kind recorded anywhere near Chile, also a region where tropical/subtropical cyclone formation has been nearly unimaginable. Although impacts are important, we have multiple articles for storms with very meager or no impacts at all, such as Hurricane Hector (2018) and Hurricane Walaka. BTW, claiming that the storm "is not special" is a fringe argument - it hold a couple of records that are well worth noting, and we also should not use impacts as the primary means of judging whether or not a storm deserves an article: notability should be the golden standard. Although this article has several issues with its current layout, there's nothing that a revision couldn't fix (I was also planning to cleanup and expand the article in the next week or so). Wikipedia is not the media, and it should not act like the other media outlets, but if we keep deleting articles because a storm/subject has no widespread or official recognition, a lot of articles on this site will end up being deleted or redirected. I always prefer improvement over outright deletion. LightandDark2000 🌀 ( talk) 02:14, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- @ Master of Time, Hurricanehink, Knowledgekid87, Legacypac, Xyklone, Final-Fantasy-HH, and Cyclonebiskit: Pinging other editors to generate a more widespread discussion. LightandDark2000 🌀 ( talk) 02:14, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- Merge/redirect to 2017–18 South Pacific cyclone season. Meteorological notability of Lexi is there, but there's insufficient content to justify a standalone article. Although other articles exist without impact, they generally have ample meteorological details whereas that is not present here. Contents can be effectively conveyed in the other systems section of the article. Satellite bulletins by NOAA warrant inclusion in the season article. Can always be revisited in the future if journal articles are written about the system and cover the development of Lexi more in-depth. Note: there is some personal bias here as the system is named after my dog. ~ Cyclonebiskit ( chat) 02:50, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- Merge/redirect to 2017–18 South Pacific cyclone season. - classic example of an unofficial cyclone (Other storms) that has reputable agencies asserting its existence, but not enough independent content to have its own article. Hurricanehink mobile ( talk) 15:09, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- Merge/redirect to 2017–18 South Pacific cyclone season. This isn't a situation like Hurricane Catarina, we are dealing with a sub-tropical storm which received far less coverage. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 20:24, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was redirect to 2017–18 South Pacific cyclone season. Per WP:ATD. The history is still there, so if somebody wants to merge anything, it's available. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:12, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Subtropical Cyclone Lexi
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Not much content that it doesn't deserve an article. Also, the storm is not special and doesn't have much impacts on land. B dash ( talk) 15:36, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Chile-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:05, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions. B dash ( talk) 06:38, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
That petition of deletion dont have sense,the article can be expanded and improve Olo72 (talk) 17:02, 30 September 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olo72 ( talk • contribs)
- Delete - As one of the main editors for South Pacific tropical cyclones, I have seriously wondered if Lexi really deserved its own article and my opinion is no. The marine weather warning centre's for the region Peru/Chili did not classify the system as a subtropical cyclone and nor did any of the other warning centres like the JTWC. In fact, it only seems to be NOAA's Satellite Analysis Branch that classified it as a subtropical cyclone and the rest of the limited amount of sources seem to show that people just jumped on the bandwagon. I feel that this would be enough for a mention in the other systems of 2017-18 South Pacific cyclone season, However, we do not include any of the other subtropical cyclones that occur in the South Pacific, as they are generally normally not classified as XXF, XXU or named, which makes me wonder if we really should mention it at all. I also wonder how much information is available without us resorting to making up records that may well be valid, but are based on our interpretation of the various databases. I also note that any damage within Chilli would have been minimal and that there probably wasn't any bar a bit of snow/rain. Jason Rees ( talk) 23:56, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - I proposed the redirect/merge for failing WP:N, and since that has failed... Nova Crystallis (Talk) 03:40, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per above and mention in other storms section Figfires Send me a message! 02:21, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Delete, Meteochile has priority at the basin where the sub-cyclone formed. If the service had not issued advisories, this article should not continue in the wiki.--🌀 Byralaal ⚕ ( +505-chat-toMe) 01:51, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- Strongly Oppose – This storm is the only one of its kind recorded anywhere near Chile, also a region where tropical/subtropical cyclone formation has been nearly unimaginable. Although impacts are important, we have multiple articles for storms with very meager or no impacts at all, such as Hurricane Hector (2018) and Hurricane Walaka. BTW, claiming that the storm "is not special" is a fringe argument - it hold a couple of records that are well worth noting, and we also should not use impacts as the primary means of judging whether or not a storm deserves an article: notability should be the golden standard. Although this article has several issues with its current layout, there's nothing that a revision couldn't fix (I was also planning to cleanup and expand the article in the next week or so). Wikipedia is not the media, and it should not act like the other media outlets, but if we keep deleting articles because a storm/subject has no widespread or official recognition, a lot of articles on this site will end up being deleted or redirected. I always prefer improvement over outright deletion. LightandDark2000 🌀 ( talk) 02:14, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- @ Master of Time, Hurricanehink, Knowledgekid87, Legacypac, Xyklone, Final-Fantasy-HH, and Cyclonebiskit: Pinging other editors to generate a more widespread discussion. LightandDark2000 🌀 ( talk) 02:14, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- Merge/redirect to 2017–18 South Pacific cyclone season. Meteorological notability of Lexi is there, but there's insufficient content to justify a standalone article. Although other articles exist without impact, they generally have ample meteorological details whereas that is not present here. Contents can be effectively conveyed in the other systems section of the article. Satellite bulletins by NOAA warrant inclusion in the season article. Can always be revisited in the future if journal articles are written about the system and cover the development of Lexi more in-depth. Note: there is some personal bias here as the system is named after my dog. ~ Cyclonebiskit ( chat) 02:50, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- Merge/redirect to 2017–18 South Pacific cyclone season. - classic example of an unofficial cyclone (Other storms) that has reputable agencies asserting its existence, but not enough independent content to have its own article. Hurricanehink mobile ( talk) 15:09, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- Merge/redirect to 2017–18 South Pacific cyclone season. This isn't a situation like Hurricane Catarina, we are dealing with a sub-tropical storm which received far less coverage. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 20:24, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.