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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Randykitty ( talk) 14:05, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
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Non-notable TV show that ran for a few years in 90s, likely only on local stations. Only reference is to a TV series guide book of some sort, and I can't find anything else online. Doesn't appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:TVSHOW. mikeman67 ( talk) 20:39, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep I was wrong; it appears to be one of those trashy but notable TV shows from the 1990s. -
LuckyLouie (
talk) 14:02, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Delete Nothing found except the usual publicity given to all TV shows of the era. This one achieved no lasting impact, and so fails WP:GNG. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 18:23, 6 March 2014 (UTC) - Delete There's nothing to indicate that this is a notable program. Simonm223 ( talk) 22:33, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- Neutral I'm the one who created this article, so I guess I'll chime in here. I created it because I thought that, given the fact that it was syndicated across the nation, it was "notable." Here is its IMDB page:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117755/?ref_=nm_ov_bio_lk2 Thanks.
Andrew Parodi (
talk) 07:34, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. Do you have a source it was syndicated nationally? I couldn't find anything that indicated that it was, and my impression was that it was shown only locally (particularly considering the dearth of sources). Generally IMDb isn't considered a
WP:RS -
WP:CITEIMDB.
mikeman67 (
talk) 15:51, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry. I don't. It was shown on Fox affiliates weeknights. It didn't run for long and was not a huge hit, which may explain the lack of info. Andrew Parodi ( talk) 10:09, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. Do you have a source it was syndicated nationally? I couldn't find anything that indicated that it was, and my impression was that it was shown only locally (particularly considering the dearth of sources). Generally IMDb isn't considered a
WP:RS -
WP:CITEIMDB.
mikeman67 (
talk) 15:51, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
- Listing on TV Guide:
http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?tvobjectid=440381&more=ucepisodelist&episodeid=897899
Andrew Parodi (
talk) 06:07, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
- Confirms the show existed, but it still doesn't meet
WP:TVSHOW, it appears to me. Unfortunately link doesn't even confirm if it aired nationally or not. The lack of
WP:RS on this show seems pretty indicative of its lack of notability. I've searched again and still am turning up empty (just some very brief mentions in some books, and they're not too reliable themselves).
mikeman67 (
talk) 14:18, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
- Definitely not local programming. It was a late night show on the UPN network starting in mid 1990s. Not a WP:RS but gives a glimpse of the title sequence. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 18:07, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
- Confirms the show existed, but it still doesn't meet
WP:TVSHOW, it appears to me. Unfortunately link doesn't even confirm if it aired nationally or not. The lack of
WP:RS on this show seems pretty indicative of its lack of notability. I've searched again and still am turning up empty (just some very brief mentions in some books, and they're not too reliable themselves).
mikeman67 (
talk) 14:18, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
- Definite keep: I added some references, many relevant trade publication articles were written on the show, which are not easily searchable via google (available on ebsco, I added a few to the article). Its no Stairway to Stardom but its certainly notable.-- Milowent • has spoken 13:36, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
- BTW, I think the sources I've added shows that it meets
WP:TVSHOW as well, so the delete votes above are no longer relevant. Its ratings also made the national Neilsens showing it was broadly syndicated.--
Milowent •
has
spoken 13:51, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. I do see that WP:TVSHOW says that nationally syndicated shows aren't automatically relevant, and its more dependent on the amount of press received (although the fact that it was on the air for so many episodes is certainly a strong point in favour of keeping it). I couldn't find anything on LexisNexis and Factiva, but I did turn up something from ProQuest, which I have added to the page. At this point, I think there is enough information for it to qualify as notable, and I'm okay with withdrawing the nomination (although there is a delete vote so I'm not sure how it works). Thank you for the additional sources and improving the page. mikeman67 ( talk) 16:10, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
- BTW, I think the sources I've added shows that it meets
WP:TVSHOW as well, so the delete votes above are no longer relevant. Its ratings also made the national Neilsens showing it was broadly syndicated.--
Milowent •
has
spoken 13:51, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Meets WP:GNG and WP:TVSHOW per the sources (added to the article) by User:Milowent. NorthAmerica 1000 14:35, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Randykitty ( talk) 14:05, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
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Non-notable TV show that ran for a few years in 90s, likely only on local stations. Only reference is to a TV series guide book of some sort, and I can't find anything else online. Doesn't appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:TVSHOW. mikeman67 ( talk) 20:39, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep I was wrong; it appears to be one of those trashy but notable TV shows from the 1990s. -
LuckyLouie (
talk) 14:02, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Delete Nothing found except the usual publicity given to all TV shows of the era. This one achieved no lasting impact, and so fails WP:GNG. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 18:23, 6 March 2014 (UTC) - Delete There's nothing to indicate that this is a notable program. Simonm223 ( talk) 22:33, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- Neutral I'm the one who created this article, so I guess I'll chime in here. I created it because I thought that, given the fact that it was syndicated across the nation, it was "notable." Here is its IMDB page:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117755/?ref_=nm_ov_bio_lk2 Thanks.
Andrew Parodi (
talk) 07:34, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. Do you have a source it was syndicated nationally? I couldn't find anything that indicated that it was, and my impression was that it was shown only locally (particularly considering the dearth of sources). Generally IMDb isn't considered a
WP:RS -
WP:CITEIMDB.
mikeman67 (
talk) 15:51, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry. I don't. It was shown on Fox affiliates weeknights. It didn't run for long and was not a huge hit, which may explain the lack of info. Andrew Parodi ( talk) 10:09, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. Do you have a source it was syndicated nationally? I couldn't find anything that indicated that it was, and my impression was that it was shown only locally (particularly considering the dearth of sources). Generally IMDb isn't considered a
WP:RS -
WP:CITEIMDB.
mikeman67 (
talk) 15:51, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
- Listing on TV Guide:
http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?tvobjectid=440381&more=ucepisodelist&episodeid=897899
Andrew Parodi (
talk) 06:07, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
- Confirms the show existed, but it still doesn't meet
WP:TVSHOW, it appears to me. Unfortunately link doesn't even confirm if it aired nationally or not. The lack of
WP:RS on this show seems pretty indicative of its lack of notability. I've searched again and still am turning up empty (just some very brief mentions in some books, and they're not too reliable themselves).
mikeman67 (
talk) 14:18, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
- Definitely not local programming. It was a late night show on the UPN network starting in mid 1990s. Not a WP:RS but gives a glimpse of the title sequence. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 18:07, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
- Confirms the show existed, but it still doesn't meet
WP:TVSHOW, it appears to me. Unfortunately link doesn't even confirm if it aired nationally or not. The lack of
WP:RS on this show seems pretty indicative of its lack of notability. I've searched again and still am turning up empty (just some very brief mentions in some books, and they're not too reliable themselves).
mikeman67 (
talk) 14:18, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
- Definite keep: I added some references, many relevant trade publication articles were written on the show, which are not easily searchable via google (available on ebsco, I added a few to the article). Its no Stairway to Stardom but its certainly notable.-- Milowent • has spoken 13:36, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
- BTW, I think the sources I've added shows that it meets
WP:TVSHOW as well, so the delete votes above are no longer relevant. Its ratings also made the national Neilsens showing it was broadly syndicated.--
Milowent •
has
spoken 13:51, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. I do see that WP:TVSHOW says that nationally syndicated shows aren't automatically relevant, and its more dependent on the amount of press received (although the fact that it was on the air for so many episodes is certainly a strong point in favour of keeping it). I couldn't find anything on LexisNexis and Factiva, but I did turn up something from ProQuest, which I have added to the page. At this point, I think there is enough information for it to qualify as notable, and I'm okay with withdrawing the nomination (although there is a delete vote so I'm not sure how it works). Thank you for the additional sources and improving the page. mikeman67 ( talk) 16:10, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
- BTW, I think the sources I've added shows that it meets
WP:TVSHOW as well, so the delete votes above are no longer relevant. Its ratings also made the national Neilsens showing it was broadly syndicated.--
Milowent •
has
spoken 13:51, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Meets WP:GNG and WP:TVSHOW per the sources (added to the article) by User:Milowent. NorthAmerica 1000 14:35, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
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