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The result was Keep ( Non-administrator closure.) Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 14:10, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Stop Porn Culture
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Doesn't meet GNG as it has to rely on self-published sources: all citations are from their website. In the bibliography section 3/5 articles are by Gail Dines, who is a founding member of Stop Porn Culture so those are SPS again. Since Gail Dines is such a prominent factor in this organisation, perhaps it's best to cover it in her article as it doesn't stand notable independently. Pudeo ' 11:22, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Keep The organization is mentioned in The Guardian/Observer, [1] The Independent, [2] Washington Times, ThinkProgress, and several dozen academic journals. Lightbreather ( talk) 15:40, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Merge to Gail Dines, who does seem to be synonymous with the organization. For example, http://stoppornculture.org/press/spc-in-the-news/ is actually titled "G. Dines and SPC in the News". So even the organization itself thinks it's synonymous with her. Lightbreather doesn't give links to the mentions in her Oppose, but the ones I've seen are just that, mentions, one sentence each that say "Group Stop Porn Culture says X", and don't really go into the group itself. That's enough for a section in Gail Dines, but not really enough for a standalone article. -- GRuban ( talk) 15:58, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Also mentioned in the Huffington Post [3] peterl ( talk) 17:22, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Though it's worth noting that one of those articles is an opinion by Gail Dines herself; one article in the Independent was by her as well. In this HuffPost article Stop Porn Culture is mentioned in the title, but the article itself mostly speaks about Dines: "Organised by Gail Dines, a sociologist and anti-porn campaigner..." So are those articles about Stop Porn Culture because of Dines or because they're notable independently? -- Pudeo ' 17:51, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep Per Lightbreather. Google search reveals hits to reliable sources. Tagging article as needing additional references seems more appropriate than deletion. -- BoboMeowCat ( talk) 17:05, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Sufficient reliable sources to meet notability criteria (especially given those introduced above). --— Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:34, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Keep, nice amount of discussion among references and multiple secondary sources in various locations. — Cirt ( talk) 21:04, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Merge with Gail Dines or delete, doesn't seem that notable, but could be in the article about Gail Dines. This is pretty much Gail Dines' personal organization. Grognard Chess (talk) Help:Getting rid of Media Viewer 04:39, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Keep seems to pass the notability sniff test. Juno ( talk) 06:09, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Snow Keep Independently notable organization. This AfD is rather POINT-y. No need for a merge, all organizations are usually started by someone who is a prominent spokesperson in their early years. Montanabw (talk) 06:56, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - as per Lightbreather. Does not need to be merged. Some of the !votes for deletion or merge appear to be WP:IDONTLIKEIT, disagreement with the organization. Robert McClenon ( talk) 20:38, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
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The result was Keep ( Non-administrator closure.) Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 14:10, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Stop Porn Culture
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Doesn't meet GNG as it has to rely on self-published sources: all citations are from their website. In the bibliography section 3/5 articles are by Gail Dines, who is a founding member of Stop Porn Culture so those are SPS again. Since Gail Dines is such a prominent factor in this organisation, perhaps it's best to cover it in her article as it doesn't stand notable independently. Pudeo ' 11:22, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Keep The organization is mentioned in The Guardian/Observer, [1] The Independent, [2] Washington Times, ThinkProgress, and several dozen academic journals. Lightbreather ( talk) 15:40, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Merge to Gail Dines, who does seem to be synonymous with the organization. For example, http://stoppornculture.org/press/spc-in-the-news/ is actually titled "G. Dines and SPC in the News". So even the organization itself thinks it's synonymous with her. Lightbreather doesn't give links to the mentions in her Oppose, but the ones I've seen are just that, mentions, one sentence each that say "Group Stop Porn Culture says X", and don't really go into the group itself. That's enough for a section in Gail Dines, but not really enough for a standalone article. -- GRuban ( talk) 15:58, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Also mentioned in the Huffington Post [3] peterl ( talk) 17:22, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Though it's worth noting that one of those articles is an opinion by Gail Dines herself; one article in the Independent was by her as well. In this HuffPost article Stop Porn Culture is mentioned in the title, but the article itself mostly speaks about Dines: "Organised by Gail Dines, a sociologist and anti-porn campaigner..." So are those articles about Stop Porn Culture because of Dines or because they're notable independently? -- Pudeo ' 17:51, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k ( talk) 16:13, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Norway-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 16:14, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep Per Lightbreather. Google search reveals hits to reliable sources. Tagging article as needing additional references seems more appropriate than deletion. -- BoboMeowCat ( talk) 17:05, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Sufficient reliable sources to meet notability criteria (especially given those introduced above). --— Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:34, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Keep, nice amount of discussion among references and multiple secondary sources in various locations. — Cirt ( talk) 21:04, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Merge with Gail Dines or delete, doesn't seem that notable, but could be in the article about Gail Dines. This is pretty much Gail Dines' personal organization. Grognard Chess (talk) Help:Getting rid of Media Viewer 04:39, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Keep seems to pass the notability sniff test. Juno ( talk) 06:09, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Snow Keep Independently notable organization. This AfD is rather POINT-y. No need for a merge, all organizations are usually started by someone who is a prominent spokesperson in their early years. Montanabw (talk) 06:56, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - as per Lightbreather. Does not need to be merged. Some of the !votes for deletion or merge appear to be WP:IDONTLIKEIT, disagreement with the organization. Robert McClenon ( talk) 20:38, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
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