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The result was no consensus. Spartaz Humbug! 12:54, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Stephanie Strom
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Non-notable journalist. Notability tag has been on article for 4 years. 2 references were added in good faith after article was PROD'd, but they still aren't WP:SIGCOV significant coverage. Only referenced facts are where she was born, that she started in the NYT as a clerk, and that she worked for the NYT for ~15 years. Okay for a LinkedIn profile, but not enough for a Wikipedia article. Based off a Google search, I don't think there's untapped reliable sources that would indicate a possibility for long-term growth. SnowFire ( talk) 19:22, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- @ TonyTheTiger:, @ Pburka: from the PROD discussion. SnowFire ( talk) 19:27, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Weak keep. Passes the minimum bar for notability per
WP:BASIC.
- Notability tag has been on article for 4 years.—there is WP:NOTIMELIMIT.
- WP:SIGCOV—""Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material."—Both of the sources I added contain significant coverage.
- not enough for a Wikipedia article—There is no minimum length for a Wikipedia article. It's acceptable for a reliably referenced biographical entry to be a permastub.
- Weak Keep Yes the nomination points out that sources exist for biographical sketch. Hence this passes either WP:BASIC or WP:GNG.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:17, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, an interview/fluff piece from a limited-audience magazine and a brief announcement from an industry site does not WP:SIGCOV make. WP:N demands attention from the world at large, not simply foodies in Manhattan. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 04:19, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Weal delete Source #3 is a NYT interview with their own reporter, #1 is an interview, which is iffy as a rs and even iffier for establishing notability as interviews are "both primary and non-independent" ( WP:INTERVIEW), but of course the fact that edible Manhattan thought to interview them could be construed as contributing to notability. However, reading the introduction and interview, it is clear that the article isn't about her, but about food. Sure it talks a bit about her work, but the title tells all: "In the Kitchen with Stephanie Strom". It's really more about cooking then it is an in-depth profile of her life. Source #2 is a very short mention of her leaving the Times in a rather minor website (No wikipedia article). So in summary, three sources, none of which is clearly significant, reliable, and independent. Sourcing not in this article is all passing mentions, so she seems to fail WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. May satisfy WP:NJOURNALIST if it can be substantiated outside of a blog's claim that she was "the most influential food business journalist in the country", but I don't really see that happening. Eddie891 Talk Work 00:33, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Spartaz Humbug! 12:54, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Stephanie Strom
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Non-notable journalist. Notability tag has been on article for 4 years. 2 references were added in good faith after article was PROD'd, but they still aren't WP:SIGCOV significant coverage. Only referenced facts are where she was born, that she started in the NYT as a clerk, and that she worked for the NYT for ~15 years. Okay for a LinkedIn profile, but not enough for a Wikipedia article. Based off a Google search, I don't think there's untapped reliable sources that would indicate a possibility for long-term growth. SnowFire ( talk) 19:22, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- @ TonyTheTiger:, @ Pburka: from the PROD discussion. SnowFire ( talk) 19:27, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Weak keep. Passes the minimum bar for notability per
WP:BASIC.
- Notability tag has been on article for 4 years.—there is WP:NOTIMELIMIT.
- WP:SIGCOV—""Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material."—Both of the sources I added contain significant coverage.
- not enough for a Wikipedia article—There is no minimum length for a Wikipedia article. It's acceptable for a reliably referenced biographical entry to be a permastub.
- Weak Keep Yes the nomination points out that sources exist for biographical sketch. Hence this passes either WP:BASIC or WP:GNG.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:17, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, an interview/fluff piece from a limited-audience magazine and a brief announcement from an industry site does not WP:SIGCOV make. WP:N demands attention from the world at large, not simply foodies in Manhattan. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 04:19, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 06:47, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 06:47, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sulfurboy ( talk) 23:07, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sulfurboy ( talk) 23:07, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- Weal delete Source #3 is a NYT interview with their own reporter, #1 is an interview, which is iffy as a rs and even iffier for establishing notability as interviews are "both primary and non-independent" ( WP:INTERVIEW), but of course the fact that edible Manhattan thought to interview them could be construed as contributing to notability. However, reading the introduction and interview, it is clear that the article isn't about her, but about food. Sure it talks a bit about her work, but the title tells all: "In the Kitchen with Stephanie Strom". It's really more about cooking then it is an in-depth profile of her life. Source #2 is a very short mention of her leaving the Times in a rather minor website (No wikipedia article). So in summary, three sources, none of which is clearly significant, reliable, and independent. Sourcing not in this article is all passing mentions, so she seems to fail WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. May satisfy WP:NJOURNALIST if it can be substantiated outside of a blog's claim that she was "the most influential food business journalist in the country", but I don't really see that happening. Eddie891 Talk Work 00:33, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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