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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:16, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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appeared in Top Chef several times, but never won. I don't think that qalifies for an article; generally we have only the winners. I am listing the other non-winners who have articles but show no obvious notability; I'm listing them separately, because checking might show that some of them might have notability otherwise. DGG ( talk ) 18:28, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep. I'm generally skeptical of notability for reality show contestants, but I think she's a perfect example that they can be notable. First, she appeared in three separate seasons of the show, including an all stars season. This eliminates any WP:BLP1E concerns, and the all stars inclusion indicates that she's more notable than the average Top Chef contestant. Secondly, she's been the subject of significant coverage in independent reliable sources that goes well beyond the WP:ROUTINE coverage one might expect while a reality show is airing. The Boston Herald profiled her (and her kitchen). Boston Magazine reviewed her doughnut shop and her catering business. And Eater has covered her cooking career [1] [2]. Of course most of these mention Top Chef (it would be weird not to), but the articles are about Cmar, not the show. pburka ( talk) 22:01, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Plenty of in-depth coverage to demonstrate meeting WP:GNG. As outlined by Pburka, WP:BLP1E is not a problem. Coverage demonstrates Cmar's notability extends beyond Top Chef and exceeds that of your average reality show contestant. Samsmachado ( talk) 23:21, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per pburka and WP:BASIC, including because the coverage for this type of reality show contestant (or, at least this contestant) includes a focus on their career as a chef; I was also able to find 2013 Boston Herald coverage to add to the article as a reference. Beccaynr ( talk) 04:22, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. Not all Top Chef articles are the same. The subject meets GNG with significant coverage, including the NYT and Boston Magazine (both currently included in the article). Thank you to Pburka for the assessment, with which I agree -- Kbabej ( talk) 15:56, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:16, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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appeared in Top Chef several times, but never won. I don't think that qalifies for an article; generally we have only the winners. I am listing the other non-winners who have articles but show no obvious notability; I'm listing them separately, because checking might show that some of them might have notability otherwise. DGG ( talk ) 18:28, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. DGG ( talk ) 18:28, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:34, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. I'm generally skeptical of notability for reality show contestants, but I think she's a perfect example that they can be notable. First, she appeared in three separate seasons of the show, including an all stars season. This eliminates any WP:BLP1E concerns, and the all stars inclusion indicates that she's more notable than the average Top Chef contestant. Secondly, she's been the subject of significant coverage in independent reliable sources that goes well beyond the WP:ROUTINE coverage one might expect while a reality show is airing. The Boston Herald profiled her (and her kitchen). Boston Magazine reviewed her doughnut shop and her catering business. And Eater has covered her cooking career [1] [2]. Of course most of these mention Top Chef (it would be weird not to), but the articles are about Cmar, not the show. pburka ( talk) 22:01, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Plenty of in-depth coverage to demonstrate meeting WP:GNG. As outlined by Pburka, WP:BLP1E is not a problem. Coverage demonstrates Cmar's notability extends beyond Top Chef and exceeds that of your average reality show contestant. Samsmachado ( talk) 23:21, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per pburka and WP:BASIC, including because the coverage for this type of reality show contestant (or, at least this contestant) includes a focus on their career as a chef; I was also able to find 2013 Boston Herald coverage to add to the article as a reference. Beccaynr ( talk) 04:22, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. Not all Top Chef articles are the same. The subject meets GNG with significant coverage, including the NYT and Boston Magazine (both currently included in the article). Thank you to Pburka for the assessment, with which I agree -- Kbabej ( talk) 15:56, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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