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The result was keep. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 00:31, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
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Extent of notability unclear Mooonswimmer 22:39, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 23:17, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. As far as I'm concerned, subject passes WP:GNG, with coverage in multiple reliable sources which are already used in the article. HenryTemplo ( talk) 07:17, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. There are several sources available on it (though arguably not that many in English), including this one (in Dutch) which isn't in the article yet, as well as this very indepth one (in German). There probably are some Finish ones, too, but I have no idea how to find them XD -- LordPeterII ( talk) 11:01, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep There is significant coverage of this subject. Passes WP:GNG. NMasiha ( talk) 15:56, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- clear WP:NOTNEWS delete Something that appears in a bunch of news reports over a few days and is never heard about again is a textbook case of a lack of notability. Mangoe ( talk) 19:40, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Not sure, if another walrus before Stena ever made it all the way through the Baltic Sea to the Gulf of Finland. She very likely was the first ever.--20:15, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Just fyi, @ Kresspahl, your post above wasn't signed properly. -- LordPeterII ( talk) 16:23, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: There also seem to be several in Finnish, although they are sometimes using the "placeholder" name ("Hamina's walrus") before she was called Stena. See for example here and here. I can only assess so much using google translate, because Finish. But for notability concerns, we should consider all languages. If any Finns are reading this, feel free to elaborate on what sources in your gibberish language are available ;) -- LordPeterII ( talk) 15:55, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- All of the sources in the article and offerred above are news reports. In the absence of any other sources (such as books or academic papers) saying what was guessed at above (that this was the first walrus in the Gulf of Finland) this looks very much like a news report, rather than an encyclopedia article. Why don't we just wait and see whether such sources materialise rather than create an article based on such primary sources? Phil Bridger ( talk) 19:38, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:12, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 00:31, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
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- Stena (walrus) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Extent of notability unclear Mooonswimmer 22:39, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 23:17, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. As far as I'm concerned, subject passes WP:GNG, with coverage in multiple reliable sources which are already used in the article. HenryTemplo ( talk) 07:17, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. There are several sources available on it (though arguably not that many in English), including this one (in Dutch) which isn't in the article yet, as well as this very indepth one (in German). There probably are some Finish ones, too, but I have no idea how to find them XD -- LordPeterII ( talk) 11:01, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep There is significant coverage of this subject. Passes WP:GNG. NMasiha ( talk) 15:56, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- clear WP:NOTNEWS delete Something that appears in a bunch of news reports over a few days and is never heard about again is a textbook case of a lack of notability. Mangoe ( talk) 19:40, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Not sure, if another walrus before Stena ever made it all the way through the Baltic Sea to the Gulf of Finland. She very likely was the first ever.--20:15, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Just fyi, @ Kresspahl, your post above wasn't signed properly. -- LordPeterII ( talk) 16:23, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: There also seem to be several in Finnish, although they are sometimes using the "placeholder" name ("Hamina's walrus") before she was called Stena. See for example here and here. I can only assess so much using google translate, because Finish. But for notability concerns, we should consider all languages. If any Finns are reading this, feel free to elaborate on what sources in your gibberish language are available ;) -- LordPeterII ( talk) 15:55, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- All of the sources in the article and offerred above are news reports. In the absence of any other sources (such as books or academic papers) saying what was guessed at above (that this was the first walrus in the Gulf of Finland) this looks very much like a news report, rather than an encyclopedia article. Why don't we just wait and see whether such sources materialise rather than create an article based on such primary sources? Phil Bridger ( talk) 19:38, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:12, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.