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The result was merge to Steam (service). Eddie891 Talk Work 16:05, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
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No reason to exist as an independent article. All of the content (once cleaned up and removed of cruft/trivia) can simply belong within a minor section within the article for Steam (service). ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 08:28, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. — hueman1 ( talk • contributions) 11:27, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. — hueman1 ( talk • contributions) 11:27, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete: No need for this to be an independent article from the main Steam one. Foonblace ( talk) 14:07, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Has only two sentences of content that could very easily just be mentioned on the main Steam page. Nixinova T C 19:13, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, procedural keep, that is. The nom is proposing a merge, not a deletion, and AfD is the wrong venue for merge proposals. --
{{u| Mark viking}} { Talk}13:17, 7 November 2021 (UTC)- Since when has merging been considered an invalid proposal for AfD? ~
Dissident93 (
talk)
10:34, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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WP:SK#1 says: "Absence of delete rationale. Normally the nominator will provide grounds for deletion in the delete rationale, but if (a) the nominator withdraws the nomination, perhaps because of improvements to the article that happen during the AfD, or (b) the nominator failed to give intelligible grounds for content deletion (i.e. arguments that would support deletion, userfying or redirection, perhaps only proposing an alternative action such as moving or merging)", which I interpret as a nom suggesting only a merge is grounds for speedy keep. The alternative to deletion
WP:BEFORE C4 says: "If the topic is not important enough to merit an article on its own, consider merging or redirecting to an existing article. This should be done particularly if the topic name is a likely search term." So that BEFORE step was not followed by you. Also, as far as I can tell, you still have not notified the article creator
User:Baratiiman of this AfD. I urge you to read
WP:BEFORE and follow its guidance. --
{{u| Mark viking}} { Talk}21:39, 8 November 2021 (UTC)- I don't read the nom cmt as fitting that criteria,
Steam (service) already talks about the chat in much more detail, and so there is no content actually to merge -- "once removed of cruft/trivia" leaves no content. Also, I've notified the article creator.
Nixinova
T
C
21:48, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for notifying the creator. And fair enough, your interpretation of the nom cmt seems reasonable, too. Perhaps I misunderstood their intent. --
{{u| Mark viking}} { Talk}23:05, 8 November 2021 (UTC)- Basically I was trying to be generous and save something from this attempt at an article. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 19:14, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for notifying the creator. And fair enough, your interpretation of the nom cmt seems reasonable, too. Perhaps I misunderstood their intent. --
- I don't read the nom cmt as fitting that criteria,
Steam (service) already talks about the chat in much more detail, and so there is no content actually to merge -- "once removed of cruft/trivia" leaves no content. Also, I've notified the article creator.
Nixinova
T
C
21:48, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
-
WP:SK#1 says: "Absence of delete rationale. Normally the nominator will provide grounds for deletion in the delete rationale, but if (a) the nominator withdraws the nomination, perhaps because of improvements to the article that happen during the AfD, or (b) the nominator failed to give intelligible grounds for content deletion (i.e. arguments that would support deletion, userfying or redirection, perhaps only proposing an alternative action such as moving or merging)", which I interpret as a nom suggesting only a merge is grounds for speedy keep. The alternative to deletion
WP:BEFORE C4 says: "If the topic is not important enough to merit an article on its own, consider merging or redirecting to an existing article. This should be done particularly if the topic name is a likely search term." So that BEFORE step was not followed by you. Also, as far as I can tell, you still have not notified the article creator
User:Baratiiman of this AfD. I urge you to read
WP:BEFORE and follow its guidance. --
- Since when has merging been considered an invalid proposal for AfD? ~
Dissident93 (
talk)
10:34, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Per WP:NEXIST. WP:BEFORE shows it has a decent amount of coverage from reliable sources, over a long period of time spanning years. At most it should be redirected to Steam (software) as a section thereof, but outright deletion would not make sense considering it's a viable search term. ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 15:23, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. It's covered as a feature of the service, not as an independently notable entity. AfD has been a de facto fine venue for high-visibility merge proposals ever since the
WP:SK#1 rules changed. (not
watching, please
{{ ping}}) czar 02:35, 8 November 2021 (UTC) - Merge: This service is part of Steam. There is no reason why a feature should have its own article when a section in Steam would already suffice. I don't think it is independently notable. OceanHok ( talk) 15:48, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to Steam (service): No need for a feature to have a standalone article. It's best to talk about the feature in the target article. ASTIG😎 ( ICE T • ICE CUBE) 13:00, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Merge with Steam (service): per the reasons that others have provided. DocFreeman24 ( talk) 05:55, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- Merge per nomination. It's just a feature of Steam Client/Service. Redirect it to Steam (service)#Client features and functionality or its own sub-section. Mann Mann ( talk) 10:51, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to Steam (service). Eddie891 Talk Work 16:05, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!
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No reason to exist as an independent article. All of the content (once cleaned up and removed of cruft/trivia) can simply belong within a minor section within the article for Steam (service). ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 08:28, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. — hueman1 ( talk • contributions) 11:27, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. — hueman1 ( talk • contributions) 11:27, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. — hueman1 ( talk • contributions) 11:27, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: No need for this to be an independent article from the main Steam one. Foonblace ( talk) 14:07, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Has only two sentences of content that could very easily just be mentioned on the main Steam page. Nixinova T C 19:13, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, procedural keep, that is. The nom is proposing a merge, not a deletion, and AfD is the wrong venue for merge proposals. --
{{u| Mark viking}} { Talk}13:17, 7 November 2021 (UTC)- Since when has merging been considered an invalid proposal for AfD? ~
Dissident93 (
talk)
10:34, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
-
WP:SK#1 says: "Absence of delete rationale. Normally the nominator will provide grounds for deletion in the delete rationale, but if (a) the nominator withdraws the nomination, perhaps because of improvements to the article that happen during the AfD, or (b) the nominator failed to give intelligible grounds for content deletion (i.e. arguments that would support deletion, userfying or redirection, perhaps only proposing an alternative action such as moving or merging)", which I interpret as a nom suggesting only a merge is grounds for speedy keep. The alternative to deletion
WP:BEFORE C4 says: "If the topic is not important enough to merit an article on its own, consider merging or redirecting to an existing article. This should be done particularly if the topic name is a likely search term." So that BEFORE step was not followed by you. Also, as far as I can tell, you still have not notified the article creator
User:Baratiiman of this AfD. I urge you to read
WP:BEFORE and follow its guidance. --
{{u| Mark viking}} { Talk}21:39, 8 November 2021 (UTC)- I don't read the nom cmt as fitting that criteria,
Steam (service) already talks about the chat in much more detail, and so there is no content actually to merge -- "once removed of cruft/trivia" leaves no content. Also, I've notified the article creator.
Nixinova
T
C
21:48, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for notifying the creator. And fair enough, your interpretation of the nom cmt seems reasonable, too. Perhaps I misunderstood their intent. --
{{u| Mark viking}} { Talk}23:05, 8 November 2021 (UTC)- Basically I was trying to be generous and save something from this attempt at an article. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 19:14, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for notifying the creator. And fair enough, your interpretation of the nom cmt seems reasonable, too. Perhaps I misunderstood their intent. --
- I don't read the nom cmt as fitting that criteria,
Steam (service) already talks about the chat in much more detail, and so there is no content actually to merge -- "once removed of cruft/trivia" leaves no content. Also, I've notified the article creator.
Nixinova
T
C
21:48, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
-
WP:SK#1 says: "Absence of delete rationale. Normally the nominator will provide grounds for deletion in the delete rationale, but if (a) the nominator withdraws the nomination, perhaps because of improvements to the article that happen during the AfD, or (b) the nominator failed to give intelligible grounds for content deletion (i.e. arguments that would support deletion, userfying or redirection, perhaps only proposing an alternative action such as moving or merging)", which I interpret as a nom suggesting only a merge is grounds for speedy keep. The alternative to deletion
WP:BEFORE C4 says: "If the topic is not important enough to merit an article on its own, consider merging or redirecting to an existing article. This should be done particularly if the topic name is a likely search term." So that BEFORE step was not followed by you. Also, as far as I can tell, you still have not notified the article creator
User:Baratiiman of this AfD. I urge you to read
WP:BEFORE and follow its guidance. --
- Since when has merging been considered an invalid proposal for AfD? ~
Dissident93 (
talk)
10:34, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Per WP:NEXIST. WP:BEFORE shows it has a decent amount of coverage from reliable sources, over a long period of time spanning years. At most it should be redirected to Steam (software) as a section thereof, but outright deletion would not make sense considering it's a viable search term. ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 15:23, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. It's covered as a feature of the service, not as an independently notable entity. AfD has been a de facto fine venue for high-visibility merge proposals ever since the
WP:SK#1 rules changed. (not
watching, please
{{ ping}}) czar 02:35, 8 November 2021 (UTC) - Merge: This service is part of Steam. There is no reason why a feature should have its own article when a section in Steam would already suffice. I don't think it is independently notable. OceanHok ( talk) 15:48, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to Steam (service): No need for a feature to have a standalone article. It's best to talk about the feature in the target article. ASTIG😎 ( ICE T • ICE CUBE) 13:00, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Merge with Steam (service): per the reasons that others have provided. DocFreeman24 ( talk) 05:55, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- Merge per nomination. It's just a feature of Steam Client/Service. Redirect it to Steam (service)#Client features and functionality or its own sub-section. Mann Mann ( talk) 10:51, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.