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The result was keep. ( Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica ¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:16, 13 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Stanford–USC football rivalry

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Not a notable article to be hosted on an encyclopedia such as Wikipedia Mohammad Hossain 01:51, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 02:07, 5 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Comment Keep. The current article is sketchy and recentist (Stanford and USC have played almost 100 times) but there is certainly a rivalry, as attested by such reliable sources as ESPN.com ( "USC-Stanford: Still spicy after all the years), USAToday ( "Southern Cal, Stanford a real rivalry"), and Yahoo! Sports ( "The Absurdity of Rivalry: A history of Stanford and USC's insane 7-year battle"). -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 05:43, 5 September 2014 (UTC) Switched to "keep" per comment below. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 19:51, 5 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• The Yahoo! Sports article is a rehash of an SBNAtion.com user-submitted blog piece -- not a reliable source per WP:RS. Yahoo often recycles user-submitted material from affiliated sports blogs because it's free content. Beware: not professional sports writers or journalists. If I'm using user-submitted blogs, I can find several sources that say every Division FBS game series is a "rivalry." Our standard is a little higher than that. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 16:40, 6 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep Meets WP:GNG per sources identified by Arxiloxos. There's also "Tim Kawakami: Stanford-USC football rivalry more friendly" The San Jose Mercury News.— Bagumba ( talk) 06:31, 5 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep but agree with commenter: way too recentist. The history goes much, much further back. However, we have to start somewhere. Let's see if we can get this expanded before we delete. -- Esprqii ( talk) 14:26, 5 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Note: Esprqii and I have each added substantial content and sources to the article [1], which now, in my opinion, clearly demonstrates the notability of this old rivalry. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 19:51, 5 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Comment - I have not had the time to do the WP:BEFORE due diligence required to determine the notability of the Stanford-USC game series as a rivalry, but per WP:NRIVALRY, no sports rivalry is inherently notable, and every sports "rivalry" must satisfy the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG. That means significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources explicitly covering the series as a rivalry, not merely as a recurring game series. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 16:33, 6 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 23:49, 6 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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