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The result was redirect to FK Proleter Novi Sad. Fenix down ( talk) 20:59, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Stadion Slana Bara
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Sports stadium that has been unsourced for over 9 years, no reliable sources found other than routine sports coverage and casual mentions. Attempt to redirect reverted by a single editor who pointily reverted numerous unsourced articles from being redirected to their associated club articles, following a flap at RfD -- and perhaps one should take note that the editor in question, with only a handful of edits, has a user name identical to the stadium involved. [1]. Per WP:GEOFEAT, "Buildings, including private residences and commercial developments, may be notable as a result of their historic, social, economic, or architectural importance, but they require significant in-depth coverage by reliable, third-party sources to establish notability." Ravenswing 12:43, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Keep The article was put to AFD just
to illustrate a point. The above user deleted or redirected half of the stadium articles from that country.
Ludost Mlačani (
talk)
12:49, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: Hardly; I went through a list of 51 stadiums -- which are not remotely all the stadiums in the country -- and redirected 19, preferring that to deletion. The editor above reverted the redirects without a valid reason, and I suggest that he is the one being pointy. In any event, this article cannot be kept without reliable sourcing; I suggest that if Ludost Mlačani wishes to do the former, he ought to provide the latter ... and at the same time he proffers a valid ground on which to keep the article, which he has failed to do. Ravenswing 12:50, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- 20. actually, just after a RfD debate about one stadium. 20 out of 51 of stadiums in a country, that were doing just fine for 10 years or more, some of them from the top league. If that is not a classic case of POINTY I do not know what is. Ludost Mlačani ( talk) 12:55, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Kpg jhp jm 15:32, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Serbia-related deletion discussions. Kpg jhp jm 15:32, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:31, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - article fails GNG. Paul Vaurie ( talk) 00:43, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete/redirect to the team. Single line stub. Only reference is an unreliable source. Can be dealt with in the article on the team. significant coverage in reliable sources is required to satisfy WP:GNG. Polyamorph ( talk) 11:30, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - top level stadium. Giant Snowman 12:57, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: Could you direct us to the notability criterion establishing notability for "top level stadiums?" Myself, I haven't seen that anything of the sort exists. Ravenswing 19:50, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- I personally stand by my vote but
WP:NSTADIUM exists and also some previous AfDs kept stadiums in Martinique and such... because they were "tier 1" stadiums.
Paul Vaurie (
talk)
07:38, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- NSTADIUM is an essay from an inactive Wikiproject, not a genuine notability guideline. Ravenswing 11:17, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No clear consensus. Editors are reminded the correct SNG to be referencing is
WP:GEOFEAT.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Fenix down (
talk)
17:39, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to FK Proleter Novi Sad per Polyamorph, and the precedent in similar Serbian stadium articles. No such user ( talk) 12:25, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to FK Proleter Novi Sad - no evidence whatsoever of a GNG/NBUILD (aka WP:GEOFEAT, which states Geographical features must be notable on their own merits. They cannot inherit the notability of organizations, people, or events.) pass. We need to be enforcing notability. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 15:46, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to FK Proleter Novi Sad. Fenix down ( talk) 20:59, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Stadion Slana Bara
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Sports stadium that has been unsourced for over 9 years, no reliable sources found other than routine sports coverage and casual mentions. Attempt to redirect reverted by a single editor who pointily reverted numerous unsourced articles from being redirected to their associated club articles, following a flap at RfD -- and perhaps one should take note that the editor in question, with only a handful of edits, has a user name identical to the stadium involved. [1]. Per WP:GEOFEAT, "Buildings, including private residences and commercial developments, may be notable as a result of their historic, social, economic, or architectural importance, but they require significant in-depth coverage by reliable, third-party sources to establish notability." Ravenswing 12:43, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Keep The article was put to AFD just
to illustrate a point. The above user deleted or redirected half of the stadium articles from that country.
Ludost Mlačani (
talk)
12:49, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: Hardly; I went through a list of 51 stadiums -- which are not remotely all the stadiums in the country -- and redirected 19, preferring that to deletion. The editor above reverted the redirects without a valid reason, and I suggest that he is the one being pointy. In any event, this article cannot be kept without reliable sourcing; I suggest that if Ludost Mlačani wishes to do the former, he ought to provide the latter ... and at the same time he proffers a valid ground on which to keep the article, which he has failed to do. Ravenswing 12:50, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- 20. actually, just after a RfD debate about one stadium. 20 out of 51 of stadiums in a country, that were doing just fine for 10 years or more, some of them from the top league. If that is not a classic case of POINTY I do not know what is. Ludost Mlačani ( talk) 12:55, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Kpg jhp jm 15:32, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Serbia-related deletion discussions. Kpg jhp jm 15:32, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:31, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:31, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - article fails GNG. Paul Vaurie ( talk) 00:43, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete/redirect to the team. Single line stub. Only reference is an unreliable source. Can be dealt with in the article on the team. significant coverage in reliable sources is required to satisfy WP:GNG. Polyamorph ( talk) 11:30, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - top level stadium. Giant Snowman 12:57, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: Could you direct us to the notability criterion establishing notability for "top level stadiums?" Myself, I haven't seen that anything of the sort exists. Ravenswing 19:50, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- I personally stand by my vote but
WP:NSTADIUM exists and also some previous AfDs kept stadiums in Martinique and such... because they were "tier 1" stadiums.
Paul Vaurie (
talk)
07:38, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- NSTADIUM is an essay from an inactive Wikiproject, not a genuine notability guideline. Ravenswing 11:17, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No clear consensus. Editors are reminded the correct SNG to be referencing is
WP:GEOFEAT.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Fenix down (
talk)
17:39, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to FK Proleter Novi Sad per Polyamorph, and the precedent in similar Serbian stadium articles. No such user ( talk) 12:25, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to FK Proleter Novi Sad - no evidence whatsoever of a GNG/NBUILD (aka WP:GEOFEAT, which states Geographical features must be notable on their own merits. They cannot inherit the notability of organizations, people, or events.) pass. We need to be enforcing notability. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 15:46, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.