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The result was delete. Sandstein 10:50, 17 October 2015 (UTC)reply
fails WP:ORG. shopping malls are not inherently notable. coverage is all routine. eg some shop opened there, etc
LibStar (
talk) 03:01, 2 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep. One of the bigger, more modern shopping malls in the Philippines' 6th largest city.
1.--
RioHondo (
talk) 02:43, 3 October 2015 (UTC)reply
being bigger and modern does not grant automatic notability.
LibStar (
talk) 14:25, 3 October 2015 (UTC)reply
for a mall crazy country whose citizens' lives revolve around them, the bigger shopping malls are of great social, economic and cultural importance to them. These structures are our modern day plazas, and in a country known for having some of the biggest malls in the world, these are also major tourist attractions.--
RioHondo (
talk) 15:35, 3 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Well provide some citations then.
LibStar (
talk) 15:54, 3 October 2015 (UTC)reply
there is no evidence southway square is a major tourist attraction.
LibStar (
talk) 03:20, 10 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete. Fails
WP:GEOFEAT. It does not have enough "significant coverage by reliable, third-party sources to establish notability".
Raykyogrou0(
Talk) 14:14, 6 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Actually, that's the general notability guideline you cited. But from the sources I added, it is notable in being the first modern mall in the city and I'd say it does have significant regional coverage from Zamboanga Today, Zamboanga Times, etc.--
RioHondo (
talk) 00:00, 8 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Natg 19 (
talk) 23:13, 9 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete - it is just a mall. No notability is shown.--
Rpclod (
talk) 23:36, 9 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Already added ref for "the first mall with an underground parking area" in the Philippines' 6th largest city. It is notable in local standards.--
RioHondo (
talk) 15:13, 11 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Notable in local standards is not a criterion for notability. "First mall with an underground parking area" in the 6th largest city is clutching at straws for notability.
LibStar (
talk) 13:48, 12 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Added another ref pertaining to the history of Galeria de Zamboanga. Im starting to see how this mall and its location matters to the people, both economically and historically (and I havent even been there). :) --
RioHondo (
talk) 14:46, 12 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete - Nothing to show how it meets notability criteria. Searches turned up mentions, but no in-depth coverage.
Onel5969TT me 13:32, 12 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Comment. Of course, this mall does not match that Cebu market's popularity which being the Philippines 2nd biggest city and one of the more visited cities by foreigners will certainly have more coverage. But I am arguing for its notability, its regional notability to the people of Zamboanga at least, as the sources cited (all Zamboanga media, including the City Government) indicate that it indeed has regional/local notability at least. As for Jollibee, I am taking down that whole sentence now. No biggie. :)--
RioHondo (
talk) 17:46, 14 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, I am aware of the US travel warning to Mindanao. Im just not sure what that has to do with the subject of notability. China/HK also issued a warning/ban recently on travelling to Manila and throughout the country following the South China Sea standoff and bus hostage crisis. Doesn't affect our articles a bit.--
RioHondo (
talk) 02:03, 15 October 2015 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The result was delete. Sandstein 10:50, 17 October 2015 (UTC)reply
fails WP:ORG. shopping malls are not inherently notable. coverage is all routine. eg some shop opened there, etc
LibStar (
talk) 03:01, 2 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep. One of the bigger, more modern shopping malls in the Philippines' 6th largest city.
1.--
RioHondo (
talk) 02:43, 3 October 2015 (UTC)reply
being bigger and modern does not grant automatic notability.
LibStar (
talk) 14:25, 3 October 2015 (UTC)reply
for a mall crazy country whose citizens' lives revolve around them, the bigger shopping malls are of great social, economic and cultural importance to them. These structures are our modern day plazas, and in a country known for having some of the biggest malls in the world, these are also major tourist attractions.--
RioHondo (
talk) 15:35, 3 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Well provide some citations then.
LibStar (
talk) 15:54, 3 October 2015 (UTC)reply
there is no evidence southway square is a major tourist attraction.
LibStar (
talk) 03:20, 10 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete. Fails
WP:GEOFEAT. It does not have enough "significant coverage by reliable, third-party sources to establish notability".
Raykyogrou0(
Talk) 14:14, 6 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Actually, that's the general notability guideline you cited. But from the sources I added, it is notable in being the first modern mall in the city and I'd say it does have significant regional coverage from Zamboanga Today, Zamboanga Times, etc.--
RioHondo (
talk) 00:00, 8 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Natg 19 (
talk) 23:13, 9 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete - it is just a mall. No notability is shown.--
Rpclod (
talk) 23:36, 9 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Already added ref for "the first mall with an underground parking area" in the Philippines' 6th largest city. It is notable in local standards.--
RioHondo (
talk) 15:13, 11 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Notable in local standards is not a criterion for notability. "First mall with an underground parking area" in the 6th largest city is clutching at straws for notability.
LibStar (
talk) 13:48, 12 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Added another ref pertaining to the history of Galeria de Zamboanga. Im starting to see how this mall and its location matters to the people, both economically and historically (and I havent even been there). :) --
RioHondo (
talk) 14:46, 12 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete - Nothing to show how it meets notability criteria. Searches turned up mentions, but no in-depth coverage.
Onel5969TT me 13:32, 12 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Comment. Of course, this mall does not match that Cebu market's popularity which being the Philippines 2nd biggest city and one of the more visited cities by foreigners will certainly have more coverage. But I am arguing for its notability, its regional notability to the people of Zamboanga at least, as the sources cited (all Zamboanga media, including the City Government) indicate that it indeed has regional/local notability at least. As for Jollibee, I am taking down that whole sentence now. No biggie. :)--
RioHondo (
talk) 17:46, 14 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, I am aware of the US travel warning to Mindanao. Im just not sure what that has to do with the subject of notability. China/HK also issued a warning/ban recently on travelling to Manila and throughout the country following the South China Sea standoff and bus hostage crisis. Doesn't affect our articles a bit.--
RioHondo (
talk) 02:03, 15 October 2015 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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