The result was Speedy delete - a combination of incoherence/nonsense claims , attack (a6) note the references to "clit and tit", totally unsourced allegations of womanizing, tawdriness, etc, and also notability (a7) is somewhat asserted but not very clearly. Is bordering on a vandalism page. And finally, it was going to get deleted anyway by overwhleming consensus. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 05:18, 12 September 2006 (UTC) reply
Attention Closing Admins!
The entire mess below only contains 11 votes (10 delete , 1 keep), so it's not actually as bad as it first looks! The rest is mostly spam, primarily originating from a (now banned) single-purpose account and repeat blatant vandal user:Hanseh, and a few anon accounts (presumably his sockpuppets). To see a version of this discussion that ONLY CONTAINS THE VOTES without comments/exposition, please see this link. Your attention is appreciated. My Alt Account 04:46, 11 September 2006 (UTC) reply
Originally deleted as a speedy and reposted; I re-nominated it as a speedy, but after considering author's argument on the talk page, I decided it's not actually a speedy candidate. In any case, I still think it should be deleted. Author compares sommi to
Emil Christensen, but has not actually provided any outside sources which the latter has. My vote is Delete and protect against recreation.
Danny Lilithborne
05:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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I have added official links to the tournaments he participated in. Outside sources have been added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanseh ( talk • contribs)
Note from the real sommi: This is Sam "sommi" Abdow and I give permission for this user to establish a biography on my famous Counter-strike career, which has spread throughout Sydney and the rest of Australia. I also condone the use of listing my personal acheievements and also making references to my career.
What is it a matter of then? Could you please tell me. "but has not actually provided any outside sources which the latter has." I've provided many outside sources now, are you willing to change your mind? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanseh ( talk • contribs)
Keep it. Sommi is a good friend of mine, he will want his achievements to live on forever. - Monique. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.107.79.238 ( talk • contribs)
"Sportspeople/athletes who have played in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming, or at the highest level in mainly amateur sports, including college sports in the United States."
Sommi has played in a fully professional league, named the Electronic Sports World Cup, as well as the CPL
http://www.thecpl.com/, Cyberalthete Professional League. He has participated in the highest level of e-sports, online and at various lan competitions.
"Above is user's first contribution to Wikipedia." How is that in anyway relevent? It's actually sommi, and he's making a fair, and calm comment.
"Notable actors and television personalities who have appeared in well-known films or television productions." - Sommi has appeared in various Counter-Strike movies including "AusLegacy 2006", "PIL Season 1 (pantheon invite league)", each with countless thousands of downloads. If you require a link, I will find you it.
"Persons achieving renown or notoriety for their involvement in newsworthy events" - As already stated, sommi has achieved renown or notoriety in his field of expertise.
i know sommi, he's reknown in australia, this is an accurate page about him - Jeremy. — Preceding
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ColourBurst
19:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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Agreed, why is this page up for deletion? He's very well known in australian counter-strike. - Danny — Preceding
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ColourBurst
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* Official Blog of Sommi * Official Australian Counter-Strike Forum * Home Australian Counter-Strike Forum of sommi * ESWC * [5] iStarZone Counter-Strike tournaments. * [6] IHS Counter-Strike tournaments. * [7] CoreGames Counter-Strike tournaments.
" Those links are 100% legit. Check for yourself. Ask any member of the Counter-Strike Community.
Alt Account, i'm sorry if i did delete your comment, the page was laggy for me, perhaps your comment didn't update for me? I'm not sure, i didn't mean to delete anything. Furthermore, all i did to the comments was add their ip to the show you that they are separate users from across the country. I asked them personally to give me their ip from www.whatismyip.com and i added the ip on the end as some of them weren't fimliar as to how to add comments properly.
Also, I hope you all consider "An article should not be dismissed as "vanity" simply because the subject is not famous. " from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:VAIN#Does_lack_of_fame_make_a_vanity_article.3F
sommi is easily persuaded by people who have alterior motives and use him in achieving them.
The result was Speedy delete - a combination of incoherence/nonsense claims , attack (a6) note the references to "clit and tit", totally unsourced allegations of womanizing, tawdriness, etc, and also notability (a7) is somewhat asserted but not very clearly. Is bordering on a vandalism page. And finally, it was going to get deleted anyway by overwhleming consensus. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 05:18, 12 September 2006 (UTC) reply
Attention Closing Admins!
The entire mess below only contains 11 votes (10 delete , 1 keep), so it's not actually as bad as it first looks! The rest is mostly spam, primarily originating from a (now banned) single-purpose account and repeat blatant vandal user:Hanseh, and a few anon accounts (presumably his sockpuppets). To see a version of this discussion that ONLY CONTAINS THE VOTES without comments/exposition, please see this link. Your attention is appreciated. My Alt Account 04:46, 11 September 2006 (UTC) reply
Originally deleted as a speedy and reposted; I re-nominated it as a speedy, but after considering author's argument on the talk page, I decided it's not actually a speedy candidate. In any case, I still think it should be deleted. Author compares sommi to
Emil Christensen, but has not actually provided any outside sources which the latter has. My vote is Delete and protect against recreation.
Danny Lilithborne
05:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
reply
I have added official links to the tournaments he participated in. Outside sources have been added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanseh ( talk • contribs)
Note from the real sommi: This is Sam "sommi" Abdow and I give permission for this user to establish a biography on my famous Counter-strike career, which has spread throughout Sydney and the rest of Australia. I also condone the use of listing my personal acheievements and also making references to my career.
What is it a matter of then? Could you please tell me. "but has not actually provided any outside sources which the latter has." I've provided many outside sources now, are you willing to change your mind? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanseh ( talk • contribs)
Keep it. Sommi is a good friend of mine, he will want his achievements to live on forever. - Monique. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.107.79.238 ( talk • contribs)
"Sportspeople/athletes who have played in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming, or at the highest level in mainly amateur sports, including college sports in the United States."
Sommi has played in a fully professional league, named the Electronic Sports World Cup, as well as the CPL
http://www.thecpl.com/, Cyberalthete Professional League. He has participated in the highest level of e-sports, online and at various lan competitions.
"Above is user's first contribution to Wikipedia." How is that in anyway relevent? It's actually sommi, and he's making a fair, and calm comment.
"Notable actors and television personalities who have appeared in well-known films or television productions." - Sommi has appeared in various Counter-Strike movies including "AusLegacy 2006", "PIL Season 1 (pantheon invite league)", each with countless thousands of downloads. If you require a link, I will find you it.
"Persons achieving renown or notoriety for their involvement in newsworthy events" - As already stated, sommi has achieved renown or notoriety in his field of expertise.
i know sommi, he's reknown in australia, this is an accurate page about him - Jeremy. — Preceding
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144.133.73.2 (
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contribs) :Forged signature by
User:Hanseh. --
ColourBurst
19:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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Agreed, why is this page up for deletion? He's very well known in australian counter-strike. - Danny — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
58.107.79.176 (
talk •
contribs) :Forged signature by
User:Hanseh. --
ColourBurst
19:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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* Official Blog of Sommi * Official Australian Counter-Strike Forum * Home Australian Counter-Strike Forum of sommi * ESWC * [5] iStarZone Counter-Strike tournaments. * [6] IHS Counter-Strike tournaments. * [7] CoreGames Counter-Strike tournaments.
" Those links are 100% legit. Check for yourself. Ask any member of the Counter-Strike Community.
Alt Account, i'm sorry if i did delete your comment, the page was laggy for me, perhaps your comment didn't update for me? I'm not sure, i didn't mean to delete anything. Furthermore, all i did to the comments was add their ip to the show you that they are separate users from across the country. I asked them personally to give me their ip from www.whatismyip.com and i added the ip on the end as some of them weren't fimliar as to how to add comments properly.
Also, I hope you all consider "An article should not be dismissed as "vanity" simply because the subject is not famous. " from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:VAIN#Does_lack_of_fame_make_a_vanity_article.3F
sommi is easily persuaded by people who have alterior motives and use him in achieving them.