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The result was keep.
Tawker (
talk) 06:23, 6 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep per notability guidelines of organizations and companies which states An organization is generally considered notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. The topic has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources like
CNBC news, the
Huffington Post,
TheStreet.com,
The Daily Dot,
XBIZ,
AVN magazine etc. If there are any promotional text then this can be re-written. Thanks.--
Talpatra (
talk) 17:51, 21 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment. Most of the sources cited in the article were to obvious press releases. Press releases are not allowable, per
WP:SPS. I further pruned out a lot of promotional content, such as biographies of the founders. There isn't a whole lot left, but at least the article is built on reliable sources now instead of press releases. The article could probably be expanded dramatically if someone felt like quoting more information from the already-available sources instead of using them for promotional sound bites.
NinjaRobotPirate (
talk) 08:24, 22 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Thank you for the great cleanup but you removed all the XBIZ and AVN sources.--
Talpatra (
talk) 16:55, 22 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Those were obvious press releases. As
self-published sources, one can source them for simple facts, such as date of incorporation, name of the CEO, etc, but they are definitely not reliable sources for anything else, and they certainly do not help indicate notability. The
CNBC piece is pretty long, and it could easily be used to add more content to the article. I don't mind rewriting promotional articles to be more neutral, but that would take more time and effort than I'm willing to expend right now. Maybe later. Now that the article sounds less like an advertisement, I'd feel comfortable voting to keep it, but I'd like to see what other people think first.
NinjaRobotPirate (
talk) 18:21, 22 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —
Crisco 1492 (
talk) 18:24, 30 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep as the current revision doesn't look like a promotion and there are significant amount of secondary source discussion.
Iniciativass (
talk) 17:00, 3 April 2014 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The result was keep.
Tawker (
talk) 06:23, 6 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep per notability guidelines of organizations and companies which states An organization is generally considered notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. The topic has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources like
CNBC news, the
Huffington Post,
TheStreet.com,
The Daily Dot,
XBIZ,
AVN magazine etc. If there are any promotional text then this can be re-written. Thanks.--
Talpatra (
talk) 17:51, 21 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment. Most of the sources cited in the article were to obvious press releases. Press releases are not allowable, per
WP:SPS. I further pruned out a lot of promotional content, such as biographies of the founders. There isn't a whole lot left, but at least the article is built on reliable sources now instead of press releases. The article could probably be expanded dramatically if someone felt like quoting more information from the already-available sources instead of using them for promotional sound bites.
NinjaRobotPirate (
talk) 08:24, 22 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Thank you for the great cleanup but you removed all the XBIZ and AVN sources.--
Talpatra (
talk) 16:55, 22 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Those were obvious press releases. As
self-published sources, one can source them for simple facts, such as date of incorporation, name of the CEO, etc, but they are definitely not reliable sources for anything else, and they certainly do not help indicate notability. The
CNBC piece is pretty long, and it could easily be used to add more content to the article. I don't mind rewriting promotional articles to be more neutral, but that would take more time and effort than I'm willing to expend right now. Maybe later. Now that the article sounds less like an advertisement, I'd feel comfortable voting to keep it, but I'd like to see what other people think first.
NinjaRobotPirate (
talk) 18:21, 22 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —
Crisco 1492 (
talk) 18:24, 30 March 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep as the current revision doesn't look like a promotion and there are significant amount of secondary source discussion.
Iniciativass (
talk) 17:00, 3 April 2014 (UTC)reply
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