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The result was Procedural close. Was deleted on 21:57, 24 November 2014 by User:Orangemike. (A7: No explanation of significance (real person/animal/organization/web content/organized event): Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sir Noah A Waters III, 32° F. & A.M.) Natg 19 ( talk) 01:32, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
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Subject not notable, most references are self-published, I couldn't find anything independent and reliable. Subject is 25 years old (according to IMDB). Seems a bit young to have attained the highest rites of the Masons. I suspect someone is having us on. ubiquity ( talk) 16:35, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:BLP and WP:42 - there is not a single WP:RS in this stub. Bearian ( talk) 17:47, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
- I've reached out to his people and heard back from his assistant. She said as far as his masonic achievements go there is no database open to the public how ever he does have his "Dues card"s and rite achievements. I'm not sure what that means but I guess its a kind of documentation proof. She has been to is lodge although never during ceremony. Again not totally sure what that means completely. There are a few indepndent interviews in the references I put. What else needs to happen? thanks for the help.
Melisa Hoffman (
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- Pretty much anything from "his people" is not going to be useful here. What is required is that people NOT affiliated with him have found him worthy of note. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:50, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. No indication of satisfying WP:BIO. His rather grandiose film/acting claims are belied by his IMDb page. Way WP:TOOSOON for an article on that basis. All the secret society claptrap does not help with notability at all. Clarityfiend ( talk) 21:34, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
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- Comment. Even if all the masonic puffery could be verified, it wouldn't be evidence of notability by Wikipedia criteria unless a credible and relevant third-party source said it was. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 17:55, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. No evidence of notability. (I have deleted all the masonic stuff from the article, as it's both irrelevant, and intrinsically unverifiable, the masons being a secret society.) Maproom ( talk) 18:15, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
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The result was Procedural close. Was deleted on 21:57, 24 November 2014 by User:Orangemike. (A7: No explanation of significance (real person/animal/organization/web content/organized event): Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sir Noah A Waters III, 32° F. & A.M.) Natg 19 ( talk) 01:32, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
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Subject not notable, most references are self-published, I couldn't find anything independent and reliable. Subject is 25 years old (according to IMDB). Seems a bit young to have attained the highest rites of the Masons. I suspect someone is having us on. ubiquity ( talk) 16:35, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:BLP and WP:42 - there is not a single WP:RS in this stub. Bearian ( talk) 17:47, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
- I've reached out to his people and heard back from his assistant. She said as far as his masonic achievements go there is no database open to the public how ever he does have his "Dues card"s and rite achievements. I'm not sure what that means but I guess its a kind of documentation proof. She has been to is lodge although never during ceremony. Again not totally sure what that means completely. There are a few indepndent interviews in the references I put. What else needs to happen? thanks for the help.
Melisa Hoffman (
talk) 19:42, 21 November 2014 (UTC)MF
- Pretty much anything from "his people" is not going to be useful here. What is required is that people NOT affiliated with him have found him worthy of note. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:50, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. No indication of satisfying WP:BIO. His rather grandiose film/acting claims are belied by his IMDb page. Way WP:TOOSOON for an article on that basis. All the secret society claptrap does not help with notability at all. Clarityfiend ( talk) 21:34, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
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- Comment. Even if all the masonic puffery could be verified, it wouldn't be evidence of notability by Wikipedia criteria unless a credible and relevant third-party source said it was. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 17:55, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. No evidence of notability. (I have deleted all the masonic stuff from the article, as it's both irrelevant, and intrinsically unverifiable, the masons being a secret society.) Maproom ( talk) 18:15, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
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