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The result was keep. AFD has been running for over a month, no realistic possibility of the article being deleted based on the below. This is not a bar to an appropriate merger.
Stifle (
talk)
16:06, 29 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete per
WP:BLP1E. The subject is only known for a single event, a controversy about sexual misconduct at the Washington Post. Apart from that he is a low profile individual. Hut 8.519:40, 28 February 2022 (UTC)reply
I don't agree that the small amount of coverage of another minor controversy is enough to overcome these concerns. Per
WP:NPF we should consider not even including this information in an article about an unknown BLP at all. And being a bureau chief of the Washington Post is not enough to establish notability per
WP:BIO. Hut 8.512:43, 1 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep Bureau chief of a notable publication is enough to establish notability. Also, I am not sure why WP:BLP1E is brought in here. There are accusations of plagiarism which has multiple full article length discussions other than his sexual misconducts. WP:BLP1E is applicable only when "If reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event." We have many coverages like
[1],
[2] and
[3] which aren't about the incident of his sexual misconduct. Hence WP:BLP1E isn't applicable here and the person seems notable even without the chapter of sexual misconduct.
Cirton (
talk)
08:12, 1 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Merge to
The Washington Post - This article seems like a
WP:BLP violation to me. Between the Daily Beast reports and the Washingtonian report, I do think the subject meets
WP:GNG. Unfortunately, I don't see how we could write an article about the subject while meeting
WP:BLP. If desired, someone could write an article about the specific allegations regarding Denyer, Kaiman, and the Post's China bureau. That said, I don't think deletion is
necessary here: regarding merge target, we don't have an article on
Felicia Sonmez or her lawsuit, but it doesn't look like the Post article is so long that it can't be expanded with three sentences (about the lawsuit, the allegations against Denyer, and his resignation). (A further note on sources: the Foreign Policy blog doesn't explicitly mention Denyer, and the plagiarism sources are only passing mentions; if the article were kept, they could support at most a single sentence, and don't contribute to my assessment of notability.)
Suriname0 (
talk)
23:02, 14 March 2022 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. AFD has been running for over a month, no realistic possibility of the article being deleted based on the below. This is not a bar to an appropriate merger.
Stifle (
talk)
16:06, 29 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete per
WP:BLP1E. The subject is only known for a single event, a controversy about sexual misconduct at the Washington Post. Apart from that he is a low profile individual. Hut 8.519:40, 28 February 2022 (UTC)reply
I don't agree that the small amount of coverage of another minor controversy is enough to overcome these concerns. Per
WP:NPF we should consider not even including this information in an article about an unknown BLP at all. And being a bureau chief of the Washington Post is not enough to establish notability per
WP:BIO. Hut 8.512:43, 1 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep Bureau chief of a notable publication is enough to establish notability. Also, I am not sure why WP:BLP1E is brought in here. There are accusations of plagiarism which has multiple full article length discussions other than his sexual misconducts. WP:BLP1E is applicable only when "If reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event." We have many coverages like
[1],
[2] and
[3] which aren't about the incident of his sexual misconduct. Hence WP:BLP1E isn't applicable here and the person seems notable even without the chapter of sexual misconduct.
Cirton (
talk)
08:12, 1 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Merge to
The Washington Post - This article seems like a
WP:BLP violation to me. Between the Daily Beast reports and the Washingtonian report, I do think the subject meets
WP:GNG. Unfortunately, I don't see how we could write an article about the subject while meeting
WP:BLP. If desired, someone could write an article about the specific allegations regarding Denyer, Kaiman, and the Post's China bureau. That said, I don't think deletion is
necessary here: regarding merge target, we don't have an article on
Felicia Sonmez or her lawsuit, but it doesn't look like the Post article is so long that it can't be expanded with three sentences (about the lawsuit, the allegations against Denyer, and his resignation). (A further note on sources: the Foreign Policy blog doesn't explicitly mention Denyer, and the plagiarism sources are only passing mentions; if the article were kept, they could support at most a single sentence, and don't contribute to my assessment of notability.)
Suriname0 (
talk)
23:02, 14 March 2022 (UTC)reply
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