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The result was redirect to Vampire Princess Miyu#Shinma. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:02, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
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This article appears to be a list of monster of the week from Vampire Princess Miyu. No sources or sign of notability. The series doesn't even have a separate list for it's "main" characters so I'm finding it hard to see a justification for this list.
I suspect part of the problem is that the article dates from 2007 and aside from a few isolated bulk edits it's largely been untouched. Therefore this is a relic that should have been dealt with a long time ago. Yes, AFD is not cleanup and we are not time limited but clearly time has not been beneficial to this article for 9 years.It's an unlikely search term and unless someone with a better knowledge of the series has a different opinion I don't see any scope for improvement or use as a merge or redirect SephyTheThird ( talk) 17:30, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. SephyTheThird ( talk) 17:31, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. SephyTheThird ( talk) 17:31, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. SephyTheThird ( talk) 17:31, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Keep: Let this page stay. It was originally started to list every known Shinma in Vampire Prince Miyu since nobody had established a detailed Shinma section when the anime's page was first created. It would still be a good information for anyone wanting to know more about the Shinma. -- Rtkat3 ( talk) 17:42, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Since this has no real chance of surviving here, I did a full history import to the Manga Wikia. [1] Dream Focus 19:12, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Wikipedia is not the place
for indiscriminate lists of minor characters (especially every monster in an anime). The main article
already has a list of main characters. While we might possibly be able to write about major monsters covered in
reliable sources, there is not enough coverage just for a standalone article on these "Shinmas".
Opencooper (
talk)
00:07, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Are you saying we should transfer the Shinma info to the main page with brief information about them? --
Rtkat3 (
talk)
17:08, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Hmm, I wouldn't mind a redirect but merging would require picking only major monsters or giving an overview.
Opencooper (
talk)
23:22, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- There aren't any major shinma to merge from this list. The ones that are major are already listed on the main page. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 00:14, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Hmm, I wouldn't mind a redirect but merging would require picking only major monsters or giving an overview.
Opencooper (
talk)
23:22, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Are you saying we should transfer the Shinma info to the main page with brief information about them? --
Rtkat3 (
talk)
17:08, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Redirect to Vampire Princess Miyu#Shinma. The list is completely unsourced, but the term is specific to the Vampire Princess Miyu so it can become a single paragraph and be summarized as monster of the week. None of the Shinma need their own separate entry, and those who are recurring characters already have their own entries. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 20:54, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Redirect to Vampire Princess Miyu#Shinma. I agree with Angus that a summary of the main characters can be summed up here. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 20:59, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Vampire Princess Miyu#Shinma. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:02, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- Shinma ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
This article appears to be a list of monster of the week from Vampire Princess Miyu. No sources or sign of notability. The series doesn't even have a separate list for it's "main" characters so I'm finding it hard to see a justification for this list.
I suspect part of the problem is that the article dates from 2007 and aside from a few isolated bulk edits it's largely been untouched. Therefore this is a relic that should have been dealt with a long time ago. Yes, AFD is not cleanup and we are not time limited but clearly time has not been beneficial to this article for 9 years.It's an unlikely search term and unless someone with a better knowledge of the series has a different opinion I don't see any scope for improvement or use as a merge or redirect SephyTheThird ( talk) 17:30, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. SephyTheThird ( talk) 17:31, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. SephyTheThird ( talk) 17:31, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. SephyTheThird ( talk) 17:31, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Keep: Let this page stay. It was originally started to list every known Shinma in Vampire Prince Miyu since nobody had established a detailed Shinma section when the anime's page was first created. It would still be a good information for anyone wanting to know more about the Shinma. -- Rtkat3 ( talk) 17:42, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Since this has no real chance of surviving here, I did a full history import to the Manga Wikia. [1] Dream Focus 19:12, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Wikipedia is not the place
for indiscriminate lists of minor characters (especially every monster in an anime). The main article
already has a list of main characters. While we might possibly be able to write about major monsters covered in
reliable sources, there is not enough coverage just for a standalone article on these "Shinmas".
Opencooper (
talk)
00:07, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Are you saying we should transfer the Shinma info to the main page with brief information about them? --
Rtkat3 (
talk)
17:08, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Hmm, I wouldn't mind a redirect but merging would require picking only major monsters or giving an overview.
Opencooper (
talk)
23:22, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- There aren't any major shinma to merge from this list. The ones that are major are already listed on the main page. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 00:14, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Hmm, I wouldn't mind a redirect but merging would require picking only major monsters or giving an overview.
Opencooper (
talk)
23:22, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Are you saying we should transfer the Shinma info to the main page with brief information about them? --
Rtkat3 (
talk)
17:08, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Redirect to Vampire Princess Miyu#Shinma. The list is completely unsourced, but the term is specific to the Vampire Princess Miyu so it can become a single paragraph and be summarized as monster of the week. None of the Shinma need their own separate entry, and those who are recurring characters already have their own entries. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 20:54, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Redirect to Vampire Princess Miyu#Shinma. I agree with Angus that a summary of the main characters can be summed up here. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 20:59, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.