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The result was keep. Tawker ( talk) 07:05, 6 April 2014 (UTC) reply

Shiatzy Chen

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I am quite sure the firm is notable. But the article seems to be very highly promotional, with multiple adjectives and sentences and paragraphs) of praise and puffery. I think it is beyond fixing by editing, and would need to be started over. DGG ( talk ) 08:12, 31 March 2014 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment - I saw this while populating the List of fashion designers and while I did add her, I shuddered. I agree that it is probably notable, but DOES need to be strafed with fire and recreated properly. Mabalu ( talk) 16:19, 31 March 2014 (UTC) reply
Suggestion One option could be to create a very straightforward article for the founder, and redirect this page there. Mabalu ( talk) 20:57, 31 March 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - Following a quick hacking out of all the repetition/blaffle/promo, and reorganising it, I think there's a lot of material here to show notability. The references will need to be double checked and verified, but sources such as the first one, with its extensive commentary on the brand and the designs, are REALLY strong and a cut above what you usually get. Mabalu ( talk) 12:49, 3 April 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - Forbes calls it one of the most successful Taiwanese luxury brands, and its founder one of the 25 most influential ethnic Chinese designers worldwide. The article has lots of problems, but they can be fixed without resorting to deletion. - Zanhe ( talk) 13:43, 3 April 2014 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Tawker ( talk) 07:05, 6 April 2014 (UTC) reply

Shiatzy Chen

Shiatzy Chen (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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I am quite sure the firm is notable. But the article seems to be very highly promotional, with multiple adjectives and sentences and paragraphs) of praise and puffery. I think it is beyond fixing by editing, and would need to be started over. DGG ( talk ) 08:12, 31 March 2014 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Taiwan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 15:20, 31 March 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 15:20, 31 March 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 15:20, 31 March 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - I saw this while populating the List of fashion designers and while I did add her, I shuddered. I agree that it is probably notable, but DOES need to be strafed with fire and recreated properly. Mabalu ( talk) 16:19, 31 March 2014 (UTC) reply
Suggestion One option could be to create a very straightforward article for the founder, and redirect this page there. Mabalu ( talk) 20:57, 31 March 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - Following a quick hacking out of all the repetition/blaffle/promo, and reorganising it, I think there's a lot of material here to show notability. The references will need to be double checked and verified, but sources such as the first one, with its extensive commentary on the brand and the designs, are REALLY strong and a cut above what you usually get. Mabalu ( talk) 12:49, 3 April 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - Forbes calls it one of the most successful Taiwanese luxury brands, and its founder one of the 25 most influential ethnic Chinese designers worldwide. The article has lots of problems, but they can be fixed without resorting to deletion. - Zanhe ( talk) 13:43, 3 April 2014 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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