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The result was Delete and redirect to Huwwarah. Randykitty ( talk) 13:49, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
Shatnawi
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I can't find any evidence of notability here and the article is almost completely unintelligible W. D. Graham 18:04, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
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SpeedyRedirect to Huwwarah as it appears the Al Shatnawi family is one of the two prominent families in that village. Can find no sources to indicate that the family is otherwise notable, and the language in the article is too poorly organized to determine where one might research their notability anyway. Created by a WP:SPA from the looks of it. Can someone who reads Arabic check http://www.shatnawi.org for potential direct-translated copyvio? Ivanvector ( talk) 23:22, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Comment: based on there being a page for the other of the two prominent families (
Gharaibeh) I suspect an encyclopedic article about this family can be written. However, as I said I can't follow the language as it is at all to even try to fix it, and there are no references nor can I find any online that are useful. This is going to be the rare instance that I !vote
WP:NUKEANDPAVE (I hate that essay, btw).
Ivanvector (
talk) 23:31, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Actually, no, screw that.
Changing to redirect and userfy (to my userspace) and I will try to fix it.I really hate that essay, you guys. Ivanvector ( talk) 23:34, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Actually, no, screw that.
- Comment: based on there being a page for the other of the two prominent families (
Gharaibeh) I suspect an encyclopedic article about this family can be written. However, as I said I can't follow the language as it is at all to even try to fix it, and there are no references nor can I find any online that are useful. This is going to be the rare instance that I !vote
WP:NUKEANDPAVE (I hate that essay, btw).
Ivanvector (
talk) 23:31, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete or redirect - notability not established. 1292simon ( talk) 23:32, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, I did try to go through this article and sort through the language, as well as checking the sources. The language is hard to follow, but it seems to be more like a oral-tradition-type family history of the article creator than a factual history of the clan. I also couldn't verify that the sources exist, let alone support the information cited in the article. I did try to verify via the sources in the Gharaibeh article, and located a copy of a book entitled "The Tribes of Jordan at the Beginning of the 21st Century" by Ghazi bin Muhammad (1998) which seems reasonably authoritative, and contains no mention of this family. The "official website" listed in external links is in Arabic and it took me a while to find an online translator that would accept the page, but now it appears to be the creator's personal blog. I have to say there isn't anything salvageable here. Redirect as noted above. Ivanvector ( talk) 19:04, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
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The result was Delete and redirect to Huwwarah. Randykitty ( talk) 13:49, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
Shatnawi
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I can't find any evidence of notability here and the article is almost completely unintelligible W. D. Graham 18:04, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions OccultZone ( Talk) 18:47, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
SpeedyRedirect to Huwwarah as it appears the Al Shatnawi family is one of the two prominent families in that village. Can find no sources to indicate that the family is otherwise notable, and the language in the article is too poorly organized to determine where one might research their notability anyway. Created by a WP:SPA from the looks of it. Can someone who reads Arabic check http://www.shatnawi.org for potential direct-translated copyvio? Ivanvector ( talk) 23:22, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Comment: based on there being a page for the other of the two prominent families (
Gharaibeh) I suspect an encyclopedic article about this family can be written. However, as I said I can't follow the language as it is at all to even try to fix it, and there are no references nor can I find any online that are useful. This is going to be the rare instance that I !vote
WP:NUKEANDPAVE (I hate that essay, btw).
Ivanvector (
talk) 23:31, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Actually, no, screw that.
Changing to redirect and userfy (to my userspace) and I will try to fix it.I really hate that essay, you guys. Ivanvector ( talk) 23:34, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Actually, no, screw that.
- Comment: based on there being a page for the other of the two prominent families (
Gharaibeh) I suspect an encyclopedic article about this family can be written. However, as I said I can't follow the language as it is at all to even try to fix it, and there are no references nor can I find any online that are useful. This is going to be the rare instance that I !vote
WP:NUKEANDPAVE (I hate that essay, btw).
Ivanvector (
talk) 23:31, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 01:19, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete or redirect - notability not established. 1292simon ( talk) 23:32, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, I did try to go through this article and sort through the language, as well as checking the sources. The language is hard to follow, but it seems to be more like a oral-tradition-type family history of the article creator than a factual history of the clan. I also couldn't verify that the sources exist, let alone support the information cited in the article. I did try to verify via the sources in the Gharaibeh article, and located a copy of a book entitled "The Tribes of Jordan at the Beginning of the 21st Century" by Ghazi bin Muhammad (1998) which seems reasonably authoritative, and contains no mention of this family. The "official website" listed in external links is in Arabic and it took me a while to find an online translator that would accept the page, but now it appears to be the creator's personal blog. I have to say there isn't anything salvageable here. Redirect as noted above. Ivanvector ( talk) 19:04, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
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