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The result was delete. Pax:Vobiscum ( talk) 16:32, 25 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Shahbazpur Town

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This article was created recently by sockpuppet MargNely. I tagged it for speedy deletion under WP:G5. The tag was removed by an IP editor.

It is a POV fork of Shahbazpur, Brahmanbaria (an article created by the sockmaster in 2014), about the same settlement. Any additional, reliably sourced, information about the place should be added there.

Shahbazpur Town should not be retained as a redirect because "Town" is not part of the name of the settlement and "Town" is not a validly formatted disambiguator. There is also substantial evidence that the settlement is a village, not a town. Article Shahbazpur, Brahmanbaria calls it a village, but whether it calls it a village or a town isn't particularly important to me, so long as none of the other information about the place is bogus.

There is no reliably sourced non-duplicative information to merge.

Exhaustive analysis of cited sources
All content duplicates Shahbazpur, Brahmanbaria, is unsourced, is sourced to unreliable sources, or fails verification.
  1. Satellite towns in Bangladesh, Retrieved 2011-12-29
    • The citation is too incomplete to be verifiable. The claimed retrieval date is 3 years before the sockmaster's first edit, so it's unlikely that they read the source.
  2. Satellite town has been placed on Google Maps, Google Maps, 2011-12-29
    • In Bangladesh, from 2008 to 2017, users were allowed to add places to Google Maps, edit information about them, and moderate other participants' edits, all through Google Map Maker. Google does not differentiate between such user-generated content and content from reputable providers, so it is not a reliable source for Bangladeshi place names.
  3. Visit the Titas-Vidhuta district Brahmanbaria, Daily Janakantha, 2018-02-18
    • Assuming the intended link is [1], the article mentions in passing that the Titas River flows through "শাহবাজপুর টাউন " [Shabazpur town]. This information is already in Shahbazpur, Brahmanbaria.
  4. Now the Shahbazpur Town is a Satellite Town, Bangladesh First Dot Com, 2011-07-11
    • The website is dead. It sounds like one of the hundreds of ephemeral self-styled "news portals" in Bangladesh. It has no reputation for accuracy or fact checking, so is not a reliable source.
  5. Four new satellite town to be set up, The Daily Star, 2011-07-11
    • Fails verification. The linked article does not have that title and does not mention Shahbazpur. Searches of The Daily Star's excellent archives find no match for the title, and no articles about satellite towns that mention Shahbazpur.
  6. Data of this Region; Genesis Bangladesh
    • Self-published blog, so is not a reliable source.
  7. "NGA GeoNames Database". National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. Retrieved 2006-07-14.
    • A GeoNames search returns seven populated place results for Shahbazpur. None of them is described as a town.
  8. "The Source of Information".
    • Self-published blog, so is not a reliable source.
  9. "The Name of Shahbazpur Town is a Populated place".
    • Fails verification. It does, however, describe Shahbazpur Bridge as strategically important in 1971.
  10. "Population Census Wing, BBS". Archived from the original on 2005-03-27. Retrieved 2018-11-10.
    • Doesn't mention Shahbazpur.
  11. Shahbazpur Town, Brahmanbaria, Bangladesh, News24bd.com, 2015-12-28
    • YouTube is generally unreliable. The content is from an unverified account. It consists of a 14-second pan accross a still photograph. The accompanying text appears to have been copied from an earlier sockpuppet-created Wikipedia article.
  12. "Road Master Plan" (PDF). Bangladesh Roads and Highways Department. Retrieved 12 December 2012.
    • Doesn't mention Shahbazpur or explicitly say that N2 is part of AH-1 or AH-2, although it probably is, since it's the main highway from Sylhet to Dhaka, and the route of the Asian Highway goes through Sylhet and Dhaka. A better source is needed.
  13. Anam, Tahnima (2 September 2014). "Bangladesh's Traveling Pain". New York Times Company. New York Times. Retrieved 3 September 2014.
    • Doesn't mention Shahbazpur. It says "... the Dhaka-Sylhet highway, has been dubbed the deadliest road in the world after a World Bank-funded project to upgrade the highway placed priority on speed but not on safety." It's an op-ed, so reliable only for the author's opinion.

-- Worldbruce ( talk) 17:15, 16 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Worldbruce ( talk) 17:15, 16 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: see also Shahbazpur Union, Sarail, apparently the same place. In previous incarnations before being deleted, Shahbazpur Town was a redirect to that article. Lithopsian ( talk) 19:21, 16 February 2020 (UTC) reply
    • Socks have created numerous variations on this article under different names, have hijacked articles about other places, and have moved and redirected with abandon, so it is time consuming to understand and clean up their mess. Shahbazpur, Brahmanbaria is the largest of the five villages within Shahbazpur Union, Sarail (a union being a 4th level administrative division in Bangladesh). The relationship between the two articles is similar to that of Los Angeles to Los Angeles County, so it's okay for Wikipedia to have articles about both, although with only 4,115 households, Shahbazpur is no Los Angeles, and there isn't much to say about either it or its surrounding union. -- Worldbruce ( talk) 21:49, 16 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. No reliable sources to support this being a separate settlement. They have been very active creating versions of this article in multiple languages. I clicked on a news site about the expansion of the satellite town and the domain no longer exists.... —Мандичка YO 😜 09:39, 17 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 13:44, 18 February 2020 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Retrieved from " https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Shahbazpur_Town&oldid=1171898719"
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Pax:Vobiscum ( talk) 16:32, 25 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Shahbazpur Town

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Shahbazpur Town (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

This article was created recently by sockpuppet MargNely. I tagged it for speedy deletion under WP:G5. The tag was removed by an IP editor.

It is a POV fork of Shahbazpur, Brahmanbaria (an article created by the sockmaster in 2014), about the same settlement. Any additional, reliably sourced, information about the place should be added there.

Shahbazpur Town should not be retained as a redirect because "Town" is not part of the name of the settlement and "Town" is not a validly formatted disambiguator. There is also substantial evidence that the settlement is a village, not a town. Article Shahbazpur, Brahmanbaria calls it a village, but whether it calls it a village or a town isn't particularly important to me, so long as none of the other information about the place is bogus.

There is no reliably sourced non-duplicative information to merge.

Exhaustive analysis of cited sources
All content duplicates Shahbazpur, Brahmanbaria, is unsourced, is sourced to unreliable sources, or fails verification.
  1. Satellite towns in Bangladesh, Retrieved 2011-12-29
    • The citation is too incomplete to be verifiable. The claimed retrieval date is 3 years before the sockmaster's first edit, so it's unlikely that they read the source.
  2. Satellite town has been placed on Google Maps, Google Maps, 2011-12-29
    • In Bangladesh, from 2008 to 2017, users were allowed to add places to Google Maps, edit information about them, and moderate other participants' edits, all through Google Map Maker. Google does not differentiate between such user-generated content and content from reputable providers, so it is not a reliable source for Bangladeshi place names.
  3. Visit the Titas-Vidhuta district Brahmanbaria, Daily Janakantha, 2018-02-18
    • Assuming the intended link is [1], the article mentions in passing that the Titas River flows through "শাহবাজপুর টাউন " [Shabazpur town]. This information is already in Shahbazpur, Brahmanbaria.
  4. Now the Shahbazpur Town is a Satellite Town, Bangladesh First Dot Com, 2011-07-11
    • The website is dead. It sounds like one of the hundreds of ephemeral self-styled "news portals" in Bangladesh. It has no reputation for accuracy or fact checking, so is not a reliable source.
  5. Four new satellite town to be set up, The Daily Star, 2011-07-11
    • Fails verification. The linked article does not have that title and does not mention Shahbazpur. Searches of The Daily Star's excellent archives find no match for the title, and no articles about satellite towns that mention Shahbazpur.
  6. Data of this Region; Genesis Bangladesh
    • Self-published blog, so is not a reliable source.
  7. "NGA GeoNames Database". National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. Retrieved 2006-07-14.
    • A GeoNames search returns seven populated place results for Shahbazpur. None of them is described as a town.
  8. "The Source of Information".
    • Self-published blog, so is not a reliable source.
  9. "The Name of Shahbazpur Town is a Populated place".
    • Fails verification. It does, however, describe Shahbazpur Bridge as strategically important in 1971.
  10. "Population Census Wing, BBS". Archived from the original on 2005-03-27. Retrieved 2018-11-10.
    • Doesn't mention Shahbazpur.
  11. Shahbazpur Town, Brahmanbaria, Bangladesh, News24bd.com, 2015-12-28
    • YouTube is generally unreliable. The content is from an unverified account. It consists of a 14-second pan accross a still photograph. The accompanying text appears to have been copied from an earlier sockpuppet-created Wikipedia article.
  12. "Road Master Plan" (PDF). Bangladesh Roads and Highways Department. Retrieved 12 December 2012.
    • Doesn't mention Shahbazpur or explicitly say that N2 is part of AH-1 or AH-2, although it probably is, since it's the main highway from Sylhet to Dhaka, and the route of the Asian Highway goes through Sylhet and Dhaka. A better source is needed.
  13. Anam, Tahnima (2 September 2014). "Bangladesh's Traveling Pain". New York Times Company. New York Times. Retrieved 3 September 2014.
    • Doesn't mention Shahbazpur. It says "... the Dhaka-Sylhet highway, has been dubbed the deadliest road in the world after a World Bank-funded project to upgrade the highway placed priority on speed but not on safety." It's an op-ed, so reliable only for the author's opinion.

-- Worldbruce ( talk) 17:15, 16 February 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Worldbruce ( talk) 17:15, 16 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: see also Shahbazpur Union, Sarail, apparently the same place. In previous incarnations before being deleted, Shahbazpur Town was a redirect to that article. Lithopsian ( talk) 19:21, 16 February 2020 (UTC) reply
    • Socks have created numerous variations on this article under different names, have hijacked articles about other places, and have moved and redirected with abandon, so it is time consuming to understand and clean up their mess. Shahbazpur, Brahmanbaria is the largest of the five villages within Shahbazpur Union, Sarail (a union being a 4th level administrative division in Bangladesh). The relationship between the two articles is similar to that of Los Angeles to Los Angeles County, so it's okay for Wikipedia to have articles about both, although with only 4,115 households, Shahbazpur is no Los Angeles, and there isn't much to say about either it or its surrounding union. -- Worldbruce ( talk) 21:49, 16 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. No reliable sources to support this being a separate settlement. They have been very active creating versions of this article in multiple languages. I clicked on a news site about the expansion of the satellite town and the domain no longer exists.... —Мандичка YO 😜 09:39, 17 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 13:44, 18 February 2020 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Retrieved from " https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Shahbazpur_Town&oldid=1171898719"

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