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The result was delete. Deleting based on the many subject matter experts thoughts below. Thanks everyone for your participation and assuming good faith! Missvain ( talk) 16:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Serpent Lord
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This title is a name from a video game taken to refer to the leader of Harad in the Tolkien universe. There's no real coverage of this figure in reliable sources. The article consists of some direct quotes referring to the unnamed figure in LOTR, then a reference to the video game, with some possible OR sprinkled in (unsourced statements about how some fans don't consider something to be "canonical" is usually OR). I see no pass of GNG here, and I think a redirect would be detrimental because "Serpent Lord" could refer to several things. Hog Farm ( talk) 20:31, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete The "Serpent Lord" is a non-notable character who was not even named in the original work. ― Susmuffin Talk 21:28, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. ミラ P 03:06, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as per nomination. TH1980 ( talk) 19:57, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as per nomination.-- Jack Upland ( talk) 23:19, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete This is not an "important" character. Tolkien tells us so little of him, an unnamed chieftain, that we have no idea how much of Haradim he really controlled. I also have to point out that the plot summary is written in the wrong tense. Plot summaries should be written in present not past tense. I would fix this one, but with so much original research and use of priary sources this article is doomed. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:56, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Deleting based on the many subject matter experts thoughts below. Thanks everyone for your participation and assuming good faith! Missvain ( talk) 16:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Serpent Lord
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This title is a name from a video game taken to refer to the leader of Harad in the Tolkien universe. There's no real coverage of this figure in reliable sources. The article consists of some direct quotes referring to the unnamed figure in LOTR, then a reference to the video game, with some possible OR sprinkled in (unsourced statements about how some fans don't consider something to be "canonical" is usually OR). I see no pass of GNG here, and I think a redirect would be detrimental because "Serpent Lord" could refer to several things. Hog Farm ( talk) 20:31, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm ( talk) 20:31, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm ( talk) 20:31, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm ( talk) 20:31, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete The "Serpent Lord" is a non-notable character who was not even named in the original work. ― Susmuffin Talk 21:28, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. ミラ P 03:06, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as per nomination. TH1980 ( talk) 19:57, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as per nomination.-- Jack Upland ( talk) 23:19, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete This is not an "important" character. Tolkien tells us so little of him, an unnamed chieftain, that we have no idea how much of Haradim he really controlled. I also have to point out that the plot summary is written in the wrong tense. Plot summaries should be written in present not past tense. I would fix this one, but with so much original research and use of priary sources this article is doomed. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:56, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. ミラ P 15:29, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.