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Delete: Sourcing I find is primary from his school (MIT) and some Army folks that set a world record for something unrelated. I don't see coverage that we'd use for PROF. Just a working educator, nothing notable here.
Oaktree b (
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23:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep, probably Speedy Keep. Strong publication record with an h-factor of 74 and four pubs with over 1000 cites. Two professional fellowships, so he qualifies under #C1 with the addition of #C3 to prove that peer recognition is not fake. The page does need better citing, but not delete.
Ldm1954 (
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00:37, 25 April 2024 (UTC)reply
This is probably going to be kept on the basis of what I consider technicalities.
Association for Computing Machinery may be prestigious, and a fellowship in it may be relevant per NPROF #3, but we wouldn't be able to tell it from the article; there's a link, but it announces that there's 58 new fellows--so how special is it? H-factor is of course always problematic, as are publications and cites. Let's not forget that we're writing an encyclopedia here, and if there's nothing to write because everything is based on organizational websites announcing "fellowship" or databases showing a ranking, what are we doing? That's right, resume writing, where all the content is derives from faculty pages or from the subject's own publications.
Drmies (
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19:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep.
ACM Fellow is an unambiguous pass of
WP:PROF#C3 (potential COI: I am one too) and he has very strong citations, passing
WP:PROF#C1. These are not technicalities. One doesn't become a full professor in a tech field at MIT without significant accomplishments, and these indicators show that he has them. The article needs cleanup but
WP:DINC. —
David Eppstein (
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20:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. This person fails to meet the notability criteria. The citation rate of this person's work is not high enough. This person does not even have any significant achievement or affiliation. It is only right to delete this article. — Preceding
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58.158.179.229 (
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12:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Speedy Keep. Meets two NPROF criteria; one is sufficient. If an article needs cleaning up, let's clean it up.
Qflib (
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20:04, 1 May 2024 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Delete: Sourcing I find is primary from his school (MIT) and some Army folks that set a world record for something unrelated. I don't see coverage that we'd use for PROF. Just a working educator, nothing notable here.
Oaktree b (
talk)
23:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep, probably Speedy Keep. Strong publication record with an h-factor of 74 and four pubs with over 1000 cites. Two professional fellowships, so he qualifies under #C1 with the addition of #C3 to prove that peer recognition is not fake. The page does need better citing, but not delete.
Ldm1954 (
talk)
00:37, 25 April 2024 (UTC)reply
This is probably going to be kept on the basis of what I consider technicalities.
Association for Computing Machinery may be prestigious, and a fellowship in it may be relevant per NPROF #3, but we wouldn't be able to tell it from the article; there's a link, but it announces that there's 58 new fellows--so how special is it? H-factor is of course always problematic, as are publications and cites. Let's not forget that we're writing an encyclopedia here, and if there's nothing to write because everything is based on organizational websites announcing "fellowship" or databases showing a ranking, what are we doing? That's right, resume writing, where all the content is derives from faculty pages or from the subject's own publications.
Drmies (
talk)
19:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep.
ACM Fellow is an unambiguous pass of
WP:PROF#C3 (potential COI: I am one too) and he has very strong citations, passing
WP:PROF#C1. These are not technicalities. One doesn't become a full professor in a tech field at MIT without significant accomplishments, and these indicators show that he has them. The article needs cleanup but
WP:DINC. —
David Eppstein (
talk)
20:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. This person fails to meet the notability criteria. The citation rate of this person's work is not high enough. This person does not even have any significant achievement or affiliation. It is only right to delete this article. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
58.158.179.229 (
talk)
12:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Speedy Keep. Meets two NPROF criteria; one is sufficient. If an article needs cleaning up, let's clean it up.
Qflib (
talk)
20:04, 1 May 2024 (UTC)reply
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