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The result was redirect to Primeval. I never close on 1 !vote but A) as noted below (and at the prev AFD) there's absolutely nothing on her notability wise(The sources below are poor in terms of notability her), and B) It seems the obvious outcome to redirect to something she's known for and plus redirects are cheap anyway. ( non-admin closure) – Davey2010 Talk 01:25, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
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- Ruth Kearney ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Still fails notability, SPA and fans forums pushing re-add. Murry1975 ( talk) 11:03, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
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There are other articles on Wiki with less notability and less citations and yet no one is pushing for those to be deleted? This page was deleted originally on account of notability due to Ms Kearney having had less than two notable roles - at the time, Primeval and Tyrant. Since then, she has starred in series three of The Following in a major role as well as been confirmed as a regular in an upcoming production. Define notability, please, as am sure over 50% of actress/actor Wiki pages will fail compared to your definition also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.176.104.122 ( talk) 11:43, 21 August 2015 (UTC) — 109.176.104.122 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Comment: Further to the above, may I request the article be secured if it is allowed to remain? It's been up less than 24 hours and already some 'anti-fans' have amended several times to reflect what they wish to be true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.176.104.122 ( talk) 12:00, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
KeepRedirect to Primeval per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ruth Kearney (2nd nomination). The other articles we have on similar actors indicate a consensus on notability. Based on that two full seasons on Primeval and most of a season on The Following are minimally notable enough to pass WP:ENT. However I can not find enough coverage in independent reliable sources to verify and sustain a free standing article. Note passing notability guidelines permit but do not require an article. In this case it is still WP:TOOSOON Jbh Talk 14:25, 21 August 2015 (UTC) - Updated !vote. Jbh Talk 20:47, 21 August 2015 (UTC) Updated rational. Jbh Talk 16:21, 26 August 2015 (UTC)- Keep I admit to being biased as I've been working on this for almost a year and will keep it updated as and when new information and sources become available. As stated above, there are articles on similar subjects where notability has not been an issue. Updated to add: We've now got confirmation she'll be in all 8 episodes of the new Netflix show 'Flaked' & will be the female lead [1] AlexaP-83 ( talk) 17:44, 21 August 2015 (UTC) — AlexaP-83 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep Actress is gaining in recognition as roles increase. Notability will no doubt increase as a result. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.17.8.180 ( talk) 20:22, 21 August 2015 (UTC) — 92.17.8.180 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep Sources for The Following: [2] [3] [4] [5]. Sources for Flaked: [6] - show is in pre-production so more sources will become available. JustGR ( talk) 21:03, 21 August 2015 (UTC) — JustGR ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Further independent sources (I haven't added these to the page as don't want to mess it up) [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] — Preceding unsigned comment added by JustGR ( talk • contribs) 14:29, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://deadline.com/2015/08/will-arnett-flaked-ruth-kearney-cast-lead-netflix-series-1201505814/ Deadline: Ruth Kearney Cast As Female Lead
- ^ http://tvline.com/2014/10/14/the-following-season-3-spoilers-hunter-parrish-character-details/ TVLine Article on Hunter Parrish and Ruth Kearney's upcoming role on The Following
- ^ http://tvline.com/2015/03/02/the-following-season-3-preview-kevin-bacon/ The Following S3 Preview
- ^ http://insidepulse.com/2015/03/02/the-following-what-to-expect-from-tonights-season-premiere-news-on-natural-born-killers-esque-couple/ The Following S3 Premiere Review
- ^ http://www.tvfanatic.com/2014/10/hunter-parrish-to-murder-people-on-the-following-season-3/ Hunter Parrish to Murder People on The Following
- ^ https://twitter.com/agentMFM/status/634034331091136517 Agent M Ford Tweet
- ^ http://www.cultbox.co.uk/interviews/syndicated/ruth-kearney-primeval-interview Ruth Kearney Primeval Interview
- ^ http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s48/primeval/news/a292577/ruth-kearney-teases-primeval-role.html Ruth Kearney teases Primeval Role
- ^ http://m.digitalspy.com/british-tv/s48/primeval/tubetalk/a233175/first-look-at-the-new-primeval-cast.html First Look at Primeval's New Cast
- ^ http://2paragraphs.com/2015/03/who-is-daisy-on-the-following/ Who Is Daisy on The Following?
- ^ http://scifiandtvtalk.typepad.com/scifiandtvtalk/2011/05/primevals-ben-mansfield-captains-log.html Ben Mansfield Talks Primeval
- ^ http://www.buzzfocus.com/2011/10/06/primeval-series-5-hits-bbc-america-this-november-episode-guide/ Primeval Series 5 Hits BBC America
- Comment I went through the referenced provided in the article, most were not RS or were inappropriate. The Cult TV Awards are not a major award. There is really no coverage about her and very little biographical information. After reviewing this material I am more solidly convinced it is WP:TOOSOON for this subject. Jbh Talk 16:19, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Primeval. I never close on 1 !vote but A) as noted below (and at the prev AFD) there's absolutely nothing on her notability wise(The sources below are poor in terms of notability her), and B) It seems the obvious outcome to redirect to something she's known for and plus redirects are cheap anyway. ( non-admin closure) – Davey2010 Talk 01:25, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
AfDs for this article:
- Ruth Kearney ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Still fails notability, SPA and fans forums pushing re-add. Murry1975 ( talk) 11:03, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 11:09, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
There are other articles on Wiki with less notability and less citations and yet no one is pushing for those to be deleted? This page was deleted originally on account of notability due to Ms Kearney having had less than two notable roles - at the time, Primeval and Tyrant. Since then, she has starred in series three of The Following in a major role as well as been confirmed as a regular in an upcoming production. Define notability, please, as am sure over 50% of actress/actor Wiki pages will fail compared to your definition also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.176.104.122 ( talk) 11:43, 21 August 2015 (UTC) — 109.176.104.122 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Comment: Further to the above, may I request the article be secured if it is allowed to remain? It's been up less than 24 hours and already some 'anti-fans' have amended several times to reflect what they wish to be true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.176.104.122 ( talk) 12:00, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
KeepRedirect to Primeval per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ruth Kearney (2nd nomination). The other articles we have on similar actors indicate a consensus on notability. Based on that two full seasons on Primeval and most of a season on The Following are minimally notable enough to pass WP:ENT. However I can not find enough coverage in independent reliable sources to verify and sustain a free standing article. Note passing notability guidelines permit but do not require an article. In this case it is still WP:TOOSOON Jbh Talk 14:25, 21 August 2015 (UTC) - Updated !vote. Jbh Talk 20:47, 21 August 2015 (UTC) Updated rational. Jbh Talk 16:21, 26 August 2015 (UTC)- Keep I admit to being biased as I've been working on this for almost a year and will keep it updated as and when new information and sources become available. As stated above, there are articles on similar subjects where notability has not been an issue. Updated to add: We've now got confirmation she'll be in all 8 episodes of the new Netflix show 'Flaked' & will be the female lead [1] AlexaP-83 ( talk) 17:44, 21 August 2015 (UTC) — AlexaP-83 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep Actress is gaining in recognition as roles increase. Notability will no doubt increase as a result. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.17.8.180 ( talk) 20:22, 21 August 2015 (UTC) — 92.17.8.180 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep Sources for The Following: [2] [3] [4] [5]. Sources for Flaked: [6] - show is in pre-production so more sources will become available. JustGR ( talk) 21:03, 21 August 2015 (UTC) — JustGR ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Further independent sources (I haven't added these to the page as don't want to mess it up) [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] — Preceding unsigned comment added by JustGR ( talk • contribs) 14:29, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://deadline.com/2015/08/will-arnett-flaked-ruth-kearney-cast-lead-netflix-series-1201505814/ Deadline: Ruth Kearney Cast As Female Lead
- ^ http://tvline.com/2014/10/14/the-following-season-3-spoilers-hunter-parrish-character-details/ TVLine Article on Hunter Parrish and Ruth Kearney's upcoming role on The Following
- ^ http://tvline.com/2015/03/02/the-following-season-3-preview-kevin-bacon/ The Following S3 Preview
- ^ http://insidepulse.com/2015/03/02/the-following-what-to-expect-from-tonights-season-premiere-news-on-natural-born-killers-esque-couple/ The Following S3 Premiere Review
- ^ http://www.tvfanatic.com/2014/10/hunter-parrish-to-murder-people-on-the-following-season-3/ Hunter Parrish to Murder People on The Following
- ^ https://twitter.com/agentMFM/status/634034331091136517 Agent M Ford Tweet
- ^ http://www.cultbox.co.uk/interviews/syndicated/ruth-kearney-primeval-interview Ruth Kearney Primeval Interview
- ^ http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s48/primeval/news/a292577/ruth-kearney-teases-primeval-role.html Ruth Kearney teases Primeval Role
- ^ http://m.digitalspy.com/british-tv/s48/primeval/tubetalk/a233175/first-look-at-the-new-primeval-cast.html First Look at Primeval's New Cast
- ^ http://2paragraphs.com/2015/03/who-is-daisy-on-the-following/ Who Is Daisy on The Following?
- ^ http://scifiandtvtalk.typepad.com/scifiandtvtalk/2011/05/primevals-ben-mansfield-captains-log.html Ben Mansfield Talks Primeval
- ^ http://www.buzzfocus.com/2011/10/06/primeval-series-5-hits-bbc-america-this-november-episode-guide/ Primeval Series 5 Hits BBC America
- Comment I went through the referenced provided in the article, most were not RS or were inappropriate. The Cult TV Awards are not a major award. There is really no coverage about her and very little biographical information. After reviewing this material I am more solidly convinced it is WP:TOOSOON for this subject. Jbh Talk 16:19, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:12, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.