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The result was redirect to Soyuzmultfilm#TV series as a sensible AfD. Owen× ☎ 17:12, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG; all coverage both in article and in BEFORE search provides only WP:TRIVIALMENTION. WP:TVSERIES does not apply in the absence of reliable sourcing about its production. As an alternative to deletion, I propose to redirect to Soyuzmultfilm. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 22:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Comics and animation, and Russia. Owen× ☎ 22:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Keep: I don't see how this fails notability. There are sources in the article. I must also add that the addition of the deletion tag seems premature as it was added only 9 minutes after the addition of those calling for the improvement of the article. Red White Blue and Yellow ( talk) 01:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- I added them as part of new page review, which was when I did source analysis and decided they did not meet
WP:GNG. Did you look at the (two) sources? They each have a single passing mention of the show, nothing close to
WP:SIGCOV.
Dclemens1971 (
talk) 02:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- You're saying that the sources should only write about the show? At least they say something like the show is one of the selected ones in the country aimed for more international exposure.
Red White Blue and Yellow (
talk) 06:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- I beg of you to read the WP:SIGCOV page. It's very clear about the kind of coverage required. Brief passing mentions don't count. The sources you cited are fine to include in the article to validate facts, but they don't do anything to establish the notability of the subject. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 13:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- You're saying that the sources should only write about the show? At least they say something like the show is one of the selected ones in the country aimed for more international exposure.
Red White Blue and Yellow (
talk) 06:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete or merge to Soyuzmultfilm. Article certainly does fail SIGCOV. It's all unsourced fancruft with both citations barely mentioning the subject in passing, as stated by the nom. The show has been around three years yet a Gsearch mainly turns up this while content for the show consists of YouTube clips. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 07:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to
Soyuzmultfilm#TV_series (not opposed to keep; added 2 sources for verification; opposed to deletion)-
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank) 11:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for adding sources. I agree with your rationale to redirect since the sources are direct links to a video platform and press releases from Soyuzmultfilm and thus don't contribute to notability as a standalone topic.
Dclemens1971 (
talk) 11:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Because this source
[1] tells entirely about the show, doesn't this count as significant coverage?
Red White Blue and Yellow (
talk) 15:42, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Red White Blue and Yellow (
talk) 15:42, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's significant, but it's not independent. At the top it says "Пресс-релизы," or press release See
WP:PRSOURCE.
Dclemens1971 (
talk) 20:07, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Is this one [2] a press release? I don't see "Пресс-релизы" in it. Red White Blue and Yellow ( talk) 02:30, 10 June 2024 (UTC) Red White Blue and Yellow ( talk) 02:30, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's significant, but it's not independent. At the top it says "Пресс-релизы," or press release See
WP:PRSOURCE.
Dclemens1971 (
talk) 20:07, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Because this source
[1] tells entirely about the show, doesn't this count as significant coverage?
Red White Blue and Yellow (
talk) 15:42, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Red White Blue and Yellow (
talk) 15:42, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Kind of hard for anyone to verify who doesn't understand Russian.
💥Casualty
• Hop along. • 08:19, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- I myself can’t read Russian web pages, but I can translate them. The same should apply to everyone else. Red White Blue and Yellow ( talk) 16:22, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for adding sources. I agree with your rationale to redirect since the sources are direct links to a video platform and press releases from Soyuzmultfilm and thus don't contribute to notability as a standalone topic.
Dclemens1971 (
talk) 11:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Malinaccier ( talk) 01:23, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect as suggested is fine, PR items don't help notability. I don't find any else.
Oaktree b (
talk) 01:41, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think the second source I posted here is PR. It doesn't explicitly say that it is. Red White Blue and Yellow ( talk) 02:25, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- ^ "Праздничный выпуск, музыкальное поздравление в исполнении юных звёзд и много подарков — мультсериалу «Енотки» 3 года". re-port.ru. Retrieved 2024-06-08.
- ^ "Мультсериал «Енотки» – детские мультфильмы на канале Карусель". www.karusel-tv.ru (in Russian). Retrieved 2024-06-08.
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The result was redirect to Soyuzmultfilm#TV series as a sensible AfD. Owen× ☎ 17:12, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG; all coverage both in article and in BEFORE search provides only WP:TRIVIALMENTION. WP:TVSERIES does not apply in the absence of reliable sourcing about its production. As an alternative to deletion, I propose to redirect to Soyuzmultfilm. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 22:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Comics and animation, and Russia. Owen× ☎ 22:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Keep: I don't see how this fails notability. There are sources in the article. I must also add that the addition of the deletion tag seems premature as it was added only 9 minutes after the addition of those calling for the improvement of the article. Red White Blue and Yellow ( talk) 01:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- I added them as part of new page review, which was when I did source analysis and decided they did not meet
WP:GNG. Did you look at the (two) sources? They each have a single passing mention of the show, nothing close to
WP:SIGCOV.
Dclemens1971 (
talk) 02:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- You're saying that the sources should only write about the show? At least they say something like the show is one of the selected ones in the country aimed for more international exposure.
Red White Blue and Yellow (
talk) 06:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- I beg of you to read the WP:SIGCOV page. It's very clear about the kind of coverage required. Brief passing mentions don't count. The sources you cited are fine to include in the article to validate facts, but they don't do anything to establish the notability of the subject. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 13:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- You're saying that the sources should only write about the show? At least they say something like the show is one of the selected ones in the country aimed for more international exposure.
Red White Blue and Yellow (
talk) 06:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete or merge to Soyuzmultfilm. Article certainly does fail SIGCOV. It's all unsourced fancruft with both citations barely mentioning the subject in passing, as stated by the nom. The show has been around three years yet a Gsearch mainly turns up this while content for the show consists of YouTube clips. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 07:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to
Soyuzmultfilm#TV_series (not opposed to keep; added 2 sources for verification; opposed to deletion)-
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank) 11:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for adding sources. I agree with your rationale to redirect since the sources are direct links to a video platform and press releases from Soyuzmultfilm and thus don't contribute to notability as a standalone topic.
Dclemens1971 (
talk) 11:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Because this source
[1] tells entirely about the show, doesn't this count as significant coverage?
Red White Blue and Yellow (
talk) 15:42, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Red White Blue and Yellow (
talk) 15:42, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's significant, but it's not independent. At the top it says "Пресс-релизы," or press release See
WP:PRSOURCE.
Dclemens1971 (
talk) 20:07, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Is this one [2] a press release? I don't see "Пресс-релизы" in it. Red White Blue and Yellow ( talk) 02:30, 10 June 2024 (UTC) Red White Blue and Yellow ( talk) 02:30, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's significant, but it's not independent. At the top it says "Пресс-релизы," or press release See
WP:PRSOURCE.
Dclemens1971 (
talk) 20:07, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Because this source
[1] tells entirely about the show, doesn't this count as significant coverage?
Red White Blue and Yellow (
talk) 15:42, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Red White Blue and Yellow (
talk) 15:42, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Kind of hard for anyone to verify who doesn't understand Russian.
💥Casualty
• Hop along. • 08:19, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- I myself can’t read Russian web pages, but I can translate them. The same should apply to everyone else. Red White Blue and Yellow ( talk) 16:22, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for adding sources. I agree with your rationale to redirect since the sources are direct links to a video platform and press releases from Soyuzmultfilm and thus don't contribute to notability as a standalone topic.
Dclemens1971 (
talk) 11:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Malinaccier ( talk) 01:23, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect as suggested is fine, PR items don't help notability. I don't find any else.
Oaktree b (
talk) 01:41, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think the second source I posted here is PR. It doesn't explicitly say that it is. Red White Blue and Yellow ( talk) 02:25, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- ^ "Праздничный выпуск, музыкальное поздравление в исполнении юных звёзд и много подарков — мультсериалу «Енотки» 3 года". re-port.ru. Retrieved 2024-06-08.
- ^ "Мультсериал «Енотки» – детские мультфильмы на канале Карусель". www.karusel-tv.ru (in Russian). Retrieved 2024-06-08.
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.