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Someone speedy-delete-tagged it "not notable". Its author appealed "well, i kinda thought the
William Kittredge quote implied notablilty: "Robert Lacy's stories are direct, honest, grace-filled, and useful. The Natural Father is that good thing, a book that both sweetens and illuminates our lives.
[1]." i take it, i can retry, when he gets his novel done.
pohick (
talk) 15:58, 9 March 2009 (UTC)".
Anthony Appleyard (
talk)
16:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Comment hard to find references to link, given British historian of same name and Robert de Lacy, will drill down, to find more evidence of notability.
pohick (
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17:55, 9 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Weak Keep on the basis of being included in an anthology, which is one of the indications of critical acceptance. It should of course never have been tagged for speedy--assserting published books, other than self-published books is at least a minimal indication of possible notability, which is enough to pass speedy. As for actual notability this really needs some reviews published in reliable sources, not just amazon. the award helps, but it is minor. the novel is in on;y 70 worldcat libraries, which isnt that much. His published work in major peer reviewed academic journals of criticism is a significant positive factor. The additional material found in Google can be linked to--people can check it free in appropriate libraries. But they appear to be just mentions or to show local notability. This is at the present borderline. DGG (
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18:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Speedy Delete: Lack of real content and very little references does not an article make. -
NeutralHomer •
Talk • March 9, 2009 @ 23:57
Weak Keep, (article author) i agree this is a borderline case: a regional writer with a one hit wonder. the quality of the writing is there, but it would be an easier call if he had another short story, or criticism collection, not much outside criticism of the stories either. (in fact might wanna do an article, on the british historian, of the same name.)
pohick (
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18:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Someone speedy-delete-tagged it "not notable". Its author appealed "well, i kinda thought the
William Kittredge quote implied notablilty: "Robert Lacy's stories are direct, honest, grace-filled, and useful. The Natural Father is that good thing, a book that both sweetens and illuminates our lives.
[1]." i take it, i can retry, when he gets his novel done.
pohick (
talk) 15:58, 9 March 2009 (UTC)".
Anthony Appleyard (
talk)
16:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Comment hard to find references to link, given British historian of same name and Robert de Lacy, will drill down, to find more evidence of notability.
pohick (
talk)
17:55, 9 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Weak Keep on the basis of being included in an anthology, which is one of the indications of critical acceptance. It should of course never have been tagged for speedy--assserting published books, other than self-published books is at least a minimal indication of possible notability, which is enough to pass speedy. As for actual notability this really needs some reviews published in reliable sources, not just amazon. the award helps, but it is minor. the novel is in on;y 70 worldcat libraries, which isnt that much. His published work in major peer reviewed academic journals of criticism is a significant positive factor. The additional material found in Google can be linked to--people can check it free in appropriate libraries. But they appear to be just mentions or to show local notability. This is at the present borderline. DGG (
talk)
18:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Speedy Delete: Lack of real content and very little references does not an article make. -
NeutralHomer •
Talk • March 9, 2009 @ 23:57
Weak Keep, (article author) i agree this is a borderline case: a regional writer with a one hit wonder. the quality of the writing is there, but it would be an easier call if he had another short story, or criticism collection, not much outside criticism of the stories either. (in fact might wanna do an article, on the british historian, of the same name.)
pohick (
talk)
18:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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