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The result was delete. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid counter-argument to a lack of notability. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 08:13, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
Rick Sollars
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WP:BLP of a smalltown mayor, not reliably sourced as the subject of enough media coverage to get over WP:NPOL #2. As always, mayors are not handed an automatic notability freebie just because they exist -- the key to making a mayor notable enough for a Wikipedia article is to write a substantive and well-sourced article that demonstrates his political significance. But other than stating that he exists, the only other content here is a criminal allegation that has not verifiably resulted in a conviction, and would very likely not be of any enduring importance to get him over the WP:PERP bar even if it had. But merely being charged with a crime is not grounds for a Wikipedia article in and of itself -- if the person did not already clear our notability standards, then being charged with a crime that has not led to a conviction is not a notability booster. And there's just one footnote here anyway, which is nowhere close to enough coverage to make a smalltown mayor notable even if it weren't about an as yet untried criminal allegation. Bearcat ( talk) 03:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete - as per nom's analysis: fails both WP:NPOL and WP:CRIM, and the combination of the two doesn't help. Ingratis ( talk) 11:45, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete I thought I had heard of this guy. I live in Detroit, so maybe heard something about the criminal charges on the news. Taylor is not a significant or major area in Metro-Detroit. It is less important than its population would indicate, in that unlike other cities of its size it has few major businesses. We would need a lot more sources to justify notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 13:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Non-notable local mayor, even with the allegations in the article. Fails WP:BLP. SportingFlyer T· C 06:55, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: Taylor is not necessarily a "smalltown" by Michigan standards, and there are many articles about mayors in Michigan whose entire political career was a mayor of a much smaller city and with less newsworthy information (e.g. Covey, Dempsey, Janke, Kozaren, Wurmlinger). It is not about the notability of Taylor but of the verifiability of Sollars, which has extensive media coverage, albiet a very weak stub article. — Notorious4life ( talk) 00:38, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
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The result was delete. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid counter-argument to a lack of notability. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 08:13, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
Rick Sollars
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WP:BLP of a smalltown mayor, not reliably sourced as the subject of enough media coverage to get over WP:NPOL #2. As always, mayors are not handed an automatic notability freebie just because they exist -- the key to making a mayor notable enough for a Wikipedia article is to write a substantive and well-sourced article that demonstrates his political significance. But other than stating that he exists, the only other content here is a criminal allegation that has not verifiably resulted in a conviction, and would very likely not be of any enduring importance to get him over the WP:PERP bar even if it had. But merely being charged with a crime is not grounds for a Wikipedia article in and of itself -- if the person did not already clear our notability standards, then being charged with a crime that has not led to a conviction is not a notability booster. And there's just one footnote here anyway, which is nowhere close to enough coverage to make a smalltown mayor notable even if it weren't about an as yet untried criminal allegation. Bearcat ( talk) 03:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat ( talk) 03:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. Bearcat ( talk) 03:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - as per nom's analysis: fails both WP:NPOL and WP:CRIM, and the combination of the two doesn't help. Ingratis ( talk) 11:45, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete I thought I had heard of this guy. I live in Detroit, so maybe heard something about the criminal charges on the news. Taylor is not a significant or major area in Metro-Detroit. It is less important than its population would indicate, in that unlike other cities of its size it has few major businesses. We would need a lot more sources to justify notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 13:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Non-notable local mayor, even with the allegations in the article. Fails WP:BLP. SportingFlyer T· C 06:55, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: Taylor is not necessarily a "smalltown" by Michigan standards, and there are many articles about mayors in Michigan whose entire political career was a mayor of a much smaller city and with less newsworthy information (e.g. Covey, Dempsey, Janke, Kozaren, Wurmlinger). It is not about the notability of Taylor but of the verifiability of Sollars, which has extensive media coverage, albiet a very weak stub article. — Notorious4life ( talk) 00:38, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
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