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The result was delete. So Why 07:05, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
Rick Peterson (Canadian politician)
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WP:BLP of a person whose only stated or sourced evidence of encyclopedic notability is being a non-winning candidate for the leaderships of two political parties. This is not an automatic free pass over WP:NPOL, however -- if a person doesn't already have a preexisting notability claim, such as actually serving in a legislature as an MP or MLA or being an established television personality, then he has to win the leadership, not just run for it, to get a Wikipedia article for the endeavour. And the only sources present here are his own campaign website, not reliable source coverage for the purposes of getting over WP:GNG. So no prejudice against recreation in the future if he accomplishes something that would change the notability equation -- he's rumoured as a possible (but not yet confirmed) candidate in a future by-election, so actually becoming a real MP may be in his future -- but nothing here already gets him over a notability criterion today. Bearcat ( talk) 03:40, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete - per WP:BLP. Magnolia677 ( talk) 10:05, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - there are plenty of articles on Canadian perennial candidates who never win more than 50 votes, and are not nearly as well know as Peterson. He also won more votes in the leadership race than multiple sitting members of parliament.
VivaSlava (
talk) 17:25, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Please point them out so we can send them to AFD as well. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 20:09, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Actually, we rarely keep articles about "perennial candidates" who perennially lose; there are admittedly occasional exceptions for ones who can be sourced as notable for more than just the fact of being candidates, such as clearing GNG for being charged with hate speech or actually holding the recognized Guinness World Record for the largest number of non-winning candidacies in recorded history. And the number of votes a person got in the process of not winning an election is also irrelevant to notability — if he hasn't held a notable office, then he doesn't pass NPOL no matter how many people did or didn't think he should. Bearcat ( talk) 21:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - The nom has stated the problem well, so I will just say per nom. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 20:09, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete, does not meet WP:BLP or WP:NPOL. He received only 0.67% of the vote in the CPC leadership race before being eliminated and he also unsuccessfully ran for leadership of the BC Conservatives, and he is only "mulling" running for the Conservative nomination in Ambrose's old seat. An article can be created if he actually gets the Conservative nomination and wins the by-election. RA0808 talk contribs 19:24, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
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The result was delete. So Why 07:05, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
Rick Peterson (Canadian politician)
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WP:BLP of a person whose only stated or sourced evidence of encyclopedic notability is being a non-winning candidate for the leaderships of two political parties. This is not an automatic free pass over WP:NPOL, however -- if a person doesn't already have a preexisting notability claim, such as actually serving in a legislature as an MP or MLA or being an established television personality, then he has to win the leadership, not just run for it, to get a Wikipedia article for the endeavour. And the only sources present here are his own campaign website, not reliable source coverage for the purposes of getting over WP:GNG. So no prejudice against recreation in the future if he accomplishes something that would change the notability equation -- he's rumoured as a possible (but not yet confirmed) candidate in a future by-election, so actually becoming a real MP may be in his future -- but nothing here already gets him over a notability criterion today. Bearcat ( talk) 03:40, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete - per WP:BLP. Magnolia677 ( talk) 10:05, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - there are plenty of articles on Canadian perennial candidates who never win more than 50 votes, and are not nearly as well know as Peterson. He also won more votes in the leadership race than multiple sitting members of parliament.
VivaSlava (
talk) 17:25, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Please point them out so we can send them to AFD as well. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 20:09, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Actually, we rarely keep articles about "perennial candidates" who perennially lose; there are admittedly occasional exceptions for ones who can be sourced as notable for more than just the fact of being candidates, such as clearing GNG for being charged with hate speech or actually holding the recognized Guinness World Record for the largest number of non-winning candidacies in recorded history. And the number of votes a person got in the process of not winning an election is also irrelevant to notability — if he hasn't held a notable office, then he doesn't pass NPOL no matter how many people did or didn't think he should. Bearcat ( talk) 21:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - The nom has stated the problem well, so I will just say per nom. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 20:09, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete, does not meet WP:BLP or WP:NPOL. He received only 0.67% of the vote in the CPC leadership race before being eliminated and he also unsuccessfully ran for leadership of the BC Conservatives, and he is only "mulling" running for the Conservative nomination in Ambrose's old seat. An article can be created if he actually gets the Conservative nomination and wins the by-election. RA0808 talk contribs 19:24, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
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