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The result was no consensus. Whereas indeed we need references, it is also true that Grade II listed buildings have a good chance to be notable. Defaulted to keep.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 08:38, 3 February 2014 (UTC) reply

Rhydspence Inn

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Wholly lacking any in-line refs. No evidence of any notability. Sure, it's 14 century but that isn't that unusual in this area. Reads more like advertising.   Velella   Velella Talk   19:49, 17 January 2014 (UTC) reply

Whilst the current owner has updated the page and parts of it may look like a biased article, it still contains history and an explanation of the historic building. Over the years they have had to contend with various factions to keep the place going. The last thing they need now is somebody with far too much time on their hands picking petty arguments over the content of the Wikipedia page entry. I say leave it be. I will ensure that more historic and informative information is added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by James99uk ( talkcontribs) 22:48, 17 January 2014 (UTC) reply
Comment - I am sure that you are well meaning in your comments James, but what or what not the owners have done is not material here. What matters is notability and it may be worth reading the wikipedia guidelines before commenting further. It also does concern me that your only edits have been on this article and this page suggesting that you may have both a vested interest and a potential conflict of interest. Regards   Velella   Velella Talk   23:47, 18 January 2014 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep. A Grade II-listed building, according to English Heritage. [1] While Grade II-listed buildings are not automatically notable, there is a good chance they are, and I think this one is probably enough of a landmark to just about meet the notability bar. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 14:37, 24 January 2014 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Whereas indeed we need references, it is also true that Grade II listed buildings have a good chance to be notable. Defaulted to keep.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 08:38, 3 February 2014 (UTC) reply

Rhydspence Inn

Rhydspence Inn (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Wholly lacking any in-line refs. No evidence of any notability. Sure, it's 14 century but that isn't that unusual in this area. Reads more like advertising.   Velella   Velella Talk   19:49, 17 January 2014 (UTC) reply

Whilst the current owner has updated the page and parts of it may look like a biased article, it still contains history and an explanation of the historic building. Over the years they have had to contend with various factions to keep the place going. The last thing they need now is somebody with far too much time on their hands picking petty arguments over the content of the Wikipedia page entry. I say leave it be. I will ensure that more historic and informative information is added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by James99uk ( talkcontribs) 22:48, 17 January 2014 (UTC) reply
Comment - I am sure that you are well meaning in your comments James, but what or what not the owners have done is not material here. What matters is notability and it may be worth reading the wikipedia guidelines before commenting further. It also does concern me that your only edits have been on this article and this page suggesting that you may have both a vested interest and a potential conflict of interest. Regards   Velella   Velella Talk   23:47, 18 January 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000 (talk) 21:35, 19 January 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000 (talk) 21:35, 19 January 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wales-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000 (talk) 21:35, 19 January 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000 (talk) 21:35, 19 January 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. A Grade II-listed building, according to English Heritage. [1] While Grade II-listed buildings are not automatically notable, there is a good chance they are, and I think this one is probably enough of a landmark to just about meet the notability bar. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 14:37, 24 January 2014 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Northamerica1000 (talk) 21:24, 25 January 2014 (UTC) reply


Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten ( talk) 01:39, 1 February 2014 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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