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The result was no consensus. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 11:04, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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Not a single in-depth source about the subject of the article. While inspirational, doesn't pass WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 01:21, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete or Merge She worked to get it listed in the NRHP, could be a brief mention in that article. Not enough on her own to warrant notability. Oaktree b ( talk) 03:39, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep Her experience in sharing her corporate knowledge with Taproot after climbing the ladder to a senior vice presidency, combined with her efforts post-professional life in non-profits should provide the notability. While mentions in the times and in magazine articles are reputable sources, her story, is one of striving to succeed as a black woman in corporate america, who leveraged that to the benefit of her community. The article in black enterprise is in depth and worth reading to learn about this facinating person. CaptJayRuffins ( talk) 20:21, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
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- Merge with NGOs. Great for her her life turned out fine, but not a particularly notable person. Not my field, but dozens of people I know might as well get wikipedia articles if this is the bar. Sentences like "worked at fortune 500 companies" silly, so has every dude stocking shelves at Walmart. Leo Breman ( talk) 16:21, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Keep This article seems to me to straddle the line of WP:GNG, with the Black Enterprise profile, significant coverage in the context of a number of the SANS articles, and the multiple minor business awards. I acknowledge that my opinion is influenced by the hundreds of stubs that we keep because the person stepped on to the pitch once. In this instance, we have a black woman achieving moderate success in the corporate world and then having a significant impact on her community. I think the cumulative effect of the coverage is sufficient to keep the article. Schazjmd (talk) 17:53, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 18:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 18:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Recently created and cites almost no sources. – Cupper52 Discuss! 18:18, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Delete No in-depth coverage from sources. I tried to verify the award she supposedly got from YMCA but the reference is just her CV posted as a short biographical note to an event she spoke, thus an autobiography. Searching on the net for her name-YMCA-award combination the only results I got back was the WP article and the abovementioned reference on the subject. ǁǁǁ ǁ Chalk19 ( talk) 20:57, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG Kolma8 ( talk) 15:34, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, per WP:GNG - additions and revisions to the article help show the significance of coverage that has been WP:SUSTAINED, and that Simons is not WP:LOWPROFILE, e.g. Simons has given "one or more scheduled interviews to a notable publication," and has "participated in an attention-seeking manner in publicity for ... a cause" that has been documented directly and in detail by multiple sources. Per WP:BASIC, the combination of multiple independent sources in the article seems to help demonstrate notability. Beccaynr ( talk) 03:11, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 11:04, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Renee V. H. Simons ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log)
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Not a single in-depth source about the subject of the article. While inspirational, doesn't pass WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 01:21, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete or Merge She worked to get it listed in the NRHP, could be a brief mention in that article. Not enough on her own to warrant notability. Oaktree b ( talk) 03:39, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 08:01, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 08:01, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Her experience in sharing her corporate knowledge with Taproot after climbing the ladder to a senior vice presidency, combined with her efforts post-professional life in non-profits should provide the notability. While mentions in the times and in magazine articles are reputable sources, her story, is one of striving to succeed as a black woman in corporate america, who leveraged that to the benefit of her community. The article in black enterprise is in depth and worth reading to learn about this facinating person. CaptJayRuffins ( talk) 20:21, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 00:50, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 00:50, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 14:05, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 14:05, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Merge with NGOs. Great for her her life turned out fine, but not a particularly notable person. Not my field, but dozens of people I know might as well get wikipedia articles if this is the bar. Sentences like "worked at fortune 500 companies" silly, so has every dude stocking shelves at Walmart. Leo Breman ( talk) 16:21, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Keep This article seems to me to straddle the line of WP:GNG, with the Black Enterprise profile, significant coverage in the context of a number of the SANS articles, and the multiple minor business awards. I acknowledge that my opinion is influenced by the hundreds of stubs that we keep because the person stepped on to the pitch once. In this instance, we have a black woman achieving moderate success in the corporate world and then having a significant impact on her community. I think the cumulative effect of the coverage is sufficient to keep the article. Schazjmd (talk) 17:53, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 18:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 18:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Recently created and cites almost no sources. – Cupper52 Discuss! 18:18, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Delete No in-depth coverage from sources. I tried to verify the award she supposedly got from YMCA but the reference is just her CV posted as a short biographical note to an event she spoke, thus an autobiography. Searching on the net for her name-YMCA-award combination the only results I got back was the WP article and the abovementioned reference on the subject. ǁǁǁ ǁ Chalk19 ( talk) 20:57, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG Kolma8 ( talk) 15:34, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, per WP:GNG - additions and revisions to the article help show the significance of coverage that has been WP:SUSTAINED, and that Simons is not WP:LOWPROFILE, e.g. Simons has given "one or more scheduled interviews to a notable publication," and has "participated in an attention-seeking manner in publicity for ... a cause" that has been documented directly and in detail by multiple sources. Per WP:BASIC, the combination of multiple independent sources in the article seems to help demonstrate notability. Beccaynr ( talk) 03:11, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.