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The result was merge to Karen Crowther. czar 00:25, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
Redwood Games
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Article is about a non-notable development team and relies on two possibly primary sources for its information, and it has been this way since 2007. A WP:BEFORE search turns up nothing extra, so even if these sources weren't primary, it'd still be a WP:N failure per the WP:THREE recommendation. Negative MP1 22:43, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Video games and Companies. Negative MP1 22:43, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. A self-promo article that has sit forgotten for decades. -- ferret ( talk) 23:03, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. I don't think those sources meet the WP:RS standard, so it's just a vanity article. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 03:25, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
Delete Obvious COI article. Not much about the studio can be found, even in gaming magazines. I cannot rule out that news articles may exist, but the article creator must demonstrate that and didn't. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 11:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Move to Karen Crowther and expand. Based on the articles shown, it appears to be her that is notable, not the studio label she operates under. I assume she didn't make an article on herself because she wanted to promote her game label, but it's clear from the sources it's a one-person label. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 23:19, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hawaii-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:40, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. There's a 1,000+ word article (read: not interview, so not primary) about the company in PC Week, already cited; another article in the Ukiah Daily Journal; and sigcov in two books. DigitalIceAge ( talk) 20:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to review newly found sources and consider Move suggestion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:26, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Move to Karen Crowther. Sources presented by DigitalIceAge meet WP:GNG marginally. I'd additionally consider her to be notable per WP:AUTHOR. PaulT2022 ( talk) 00:37, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect/Merge into Karen Crowther. I agree with PaulT2022 and Zxcvbnm; the sources meet GNG for Karen Crowther rather than Redwood Games. The abstract for the 1000+ word article starts with "Features Karen Crowther of Redwood Games Inc", and the Ukiah Daily Journal article is about her achievements, mentioning that she "recently" founded Redwood Games. I think a redirect would be more appropriate, so I boldly went ahead and started an article so that there was something to redirect/merge into, if needed. - Whisperjanes ( talk) 05:14, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- Move to Karen Crowther because it's borderline but is probably a good addition there. BuySomeApples ( talk) 16:30, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Karen Crowther. czar 00:25, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
Redwood Games
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Article is about a non-notable development team and relies on two possibly primary sources for its information, and it has been this way since 2007. A WP:BEFORE search turns up nothing extra, so even if these sources weren't primary, it'd still be a WP:N failure per the WP:THREE recommendation. Negative MP1 22:43, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Video games and Companies. Negative MP1 22:43, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. A self-promo article that has sit forgotten for decades. -- ferret ( talk) 23:03, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. I don't think those sources meet the WP:RS standard, so it's just a vanity article. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 03:25, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
Delete Obvious COI article. Not much about the studio can be found, even in gaming magazines. I cannot rule out that news articles may exist, but the article creator must demonstrate that and didn't. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 11:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Move to Karen Crowther and expand. Based on the articles shown, it appears to be her that is notable, not the studio label she operates under. I assume she didn't make an article on herself because she wanted to promote her game label, but it's clear from the sources it's a one-person label. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 23:19, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hawaii-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:40, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. There's a 1,000+ word article (read: not interview, so not primary) about the company in PC Week, already cited; another article in the Ukiah Daily Journal; and sigcov in two books. DigitalIceAge ( talk) 20:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to review newly found sources and consider Move suggestion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:26, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Move to Karen Crowther. Sources presented by DigitalIceAge meet WP:GNG marginally. I'd additionally consider her to be notable per WP:AUTHOR. PaulT2022 ( talk) 00:37, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect/Merge into Karen Crowther. I agree with PaulT2022 and Zxcvbnm; the sources meet GNG for Karen Crowther rather than Redwood Games. The abstract for the 1000+ word article starts with "Features Karen Crowther of Redwood Games Inc", and the Ukiah Daily Journal article is about her achievements, mentioning that she "recently" founded Redwood Games. I think a redirect would be more appropriate, so I boldly went ahead and started an article so that there was something to redirect/merge into, if needed. - Whisperjanes ( talk) 05:14, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- Move to Karen Crowther because it's borderline but is probably a good addition there. BuySomeApples ( talk) 16:30, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.