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The result was delete. I see there is only one delete argument apart from the nominator but I am inclined to consider Uncle G's argument as a deletion argument in light of WP:DEL-REASON #6 Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 17:50, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
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This seems to be an (unintentional) hoax. German Wikipedia User:Atamari has done extensive research, leading to the conclusion that this peak does not exist. Atamari has contacted the admins of Peakbagger.com which is the main source of this article's content, who acknowledged their mistake and have changed their respective page accordingly. Instead, Gambia's highest point is nameless, 64 meters high, and at completely different coordinates. A representative of the other source, USGS, has acknowledged via email that their information was "incorrect", as well, unfortunately without changing their page as yet. There is a thread about the whole issue at Wikipedia Kurier, the German-language equivalent of the Signpost, with the texts of the emails in English. RJFF ( talk) 12:24, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 13:11, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete. WP:BEFOREing here has lead me to a multitude of sources of stating that the highest point in Gambia is an unnamed hill some 53 meters high (in a river nation with a lowest point of 0 (sea) and an average elevation of 34 meters..... Which lead to muse about how many dump trucks would I need to the Gambian height record at an arbitrary point (with a new pile of sand and rock)). It is perhaps not surprising that a river nation's highest point is rather unremarkable to the point it isn't named. So while this may merit a mention somewhere in Geography of the Gambia (where this article is still mentioned), it doesn't seem this particular "summit" (or very small hill) passes GNG. Icewhiz ( talk) 13:20, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
- I enjoyed how both correspondents pointed to Wikipedia as the source of this information. It likely was. Here is the change from ″unnamed location″ to ″Red Rock″ in 2007. The 53m value is in the earliest MediaWiki revision of the article in 2002. Uncle G ( talk) 15:25, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
- I've tried tying down a definitive verifiable highest point. More on Talk:Geography of the Gambia but this definitely does not show up in sources. It is unverifiable. Uncle G ( talk) 19:25, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. I see there is only one delete argument apart from the nominator but I am inclined to consider Uncle G's argument as a deletion argument in light of WP:DEL-REASON #6 Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 17:50, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
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This seems to be an (unintentional) hoax. German Wikipedia User:Atamari has done extensive research, leading to the conclusion that this peak does not exist. Atamari has contacted the admins of Peakbagger.com which is the main source of this article's content, who acknowledged their mistake and have changed their respective page accordingly. Instead, Gambia's highest point is nameless, 64 meters high, and at completely different coordinates. A representative of the other source, USGS, has acknowledged via email that their information was "incorrect", as well, unfortunately without changing their page as yet. There is a thread about the whole issue at Wikipedia Kurier, the German-language equivalent of the Signpost, with the texts of the emails in English. RJFF ( talk) 12:24, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2019 July 30. — cyberbot I Talk to my owner:Online 12:49, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 13:11, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 13:11, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. WP:BEFOREing here has lead me to a multitude of sources of stating that the highest point in Gambia is an unnamed hill some 53 meters high (in a river nation with a lowest point of 0 (sea) and an average elevation of 34 meters..... Which lead to muse about how many dump trucks would I need to the Gambian height record at an arbitrary point (with a new pile of sand and rock)). It is perhaps not surprising that a river nation's highest point is rather unremarkable to the point it isn't named. So while this may merit a mention somewhere in Geography of the Gambia (where this article is still mentioned), it doesn't seem this particular "summit" (or very small hill) passes GNG. Icewhiz ( talk) 13:20, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
- I enjoyed how both correspondents pointed to Wikipedia as the source of this information. It likely was. Here is the change from ″unnamed location″ to ″Red Rock″ in 2007. The 53m value is in the earliest MediaWiki revision of the article in 2002. Uncle G ( talk) 15:25, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
- I've tried tying down a definitive verifiable highest point. More on Talk:Geography of the Gambia but this definitely does not show up in sources. It is unverifiable. Uncle G ( talk) 19:25, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
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Comment: at 3 august in german wikipedia as "nonexistent object" deleted --
Atamari (
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15:03, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
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