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The result was no consensus. Randykitty ( talk) 15:58, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Randi Marainen
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Not notable. Geschichte ( talk) 20:26, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. XOR'easter ( talk) 21:20, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
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- Weak Delete - so the sources given provide nothing more than 1 line mentions, and the same applies for much of the coverage available in a BEFORE sweep. However, Source 1 - Suicides is an extensive piece (even excluding quotes) on Randi about her family and community's issues with suicide. Source 2 is more like a large mention and I don't believe it satisfies Sig Cov. I believe both are reliable and independent. I'm not sure whether WP:GNG or WP:BASIC is met. More specifically I do not believe either WP:ANYBIO or WP:CREATIVE are met. Both these judgements, my source judgements and (especially) the finding of sources could reasonably be queries - I was on the verge of at least !voting neutral, so please do your own BEFORE sweeps given the potential variability. Nosebagbear ( talk) 21:42, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - Doesn't meet WP:GNG. W C M email 12:08, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - This article is part of a month-long (August) initiative to create articles on indigenous women and as such is still being developed. If you still feel the need to delete it, please do so in September instead of negating the work that has been done on the article to date before then. - Yupik ( talk) 20:41, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
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Yupik: - given that the AfD is on notability grounds, it shouldn't really matter when the consideration occurs, so long as some decent BEFORE sweeps are done, since there either will be, or won't be, some suitable references in the ether to find.
Nosebagbear (
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20:55, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- There are articles on her on Swedish websites, but I don't have access to them since they're behind a paywall. I can go through the Sámi ones, but not this week; I'm swamped with workwork. - Yupik ( talk) 21:10, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- @
Yupik: - given that the AfD is on notability grounds, it shouldn't really matter when the consideration occurs, so long as some decent BEFORE sweeps are done, since there either will be, or won't be, some suitable references in the ether to find.
Nosebagbear (
talk)
20:55, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- Comment I think someone who is fluent in Swedish should look at the sources. I'm pinging Ipigott, since he's a polyglot. :) Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 20:53, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
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Megalibrarygirl: Thanks for pinging me. The
description from Swedish TV in connection with the Rubus Arcticus awards is impressive. I'm pretty sure Yukip will also be able to come up with more background from Sami and other Scandiavian sources.--
Ipigott (
talk)
07:52, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- That sounds promising, there's a good amount of time left, so hopefully something will turn up.
Nosebagbear (
talk)
20:55, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- Here's what she has in the Ájtte museum collections - Yupik ( talk) 21:19, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- That sounds promising, there's a good amount of time left, so hopefully something will turn up.
Nosebagbear (
talk)
20:55, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep: From the awards she has received, she already appears sufficiently notable in Sweden.-- Ipigott ( talk) 07:52, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - I believe the sources are sufficient to show GNG, and she has received two significant awards. -- bonadea contributions talk 14:08, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Randykitty ( talk) 15:58, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Randi Marainen
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Not notable. Geschichte ( talk) 20:26, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. XOR'easter ( talk) 21:20, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Norway-related deletion discussions. XOR'easter ( talk) 21:20, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- Weak Delete - so the sources given provide nothing more than 1 line mentions, and the same applies for much of the coverage available in a BEFORE sweep. However, Source 1 - Suicides is an extensive piece (even excluding quotes) on Randi about her family and community's issues with suicide. Source 2 is more like a large mention and I don't believe it satisfies Sig Cov. I believe both are reliable and independent. I'm not sure whether WP:GNG or WP:BASIC is met. More specifically I do not believe either WP:ANYBIO or WP:CREATIVE are met. Both these judgements, my source judgements and (especially) the finding of sources could reasonably be queries - I was on the verge of at least !voting neutral, so please do your own BEFORE sweeps given the potential variability. Nosebagbear ( talk) 21:42, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - Doesn't meet WP:GNG. W C M email 12:08, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - This article is part of a month-long (August) initiative to create articles on indigenous women and as such is still being developed. If you still feel the need to delete it, please do so in September instead of negating the work that has been done on the article to date before then. - Yupik ( talk) 20:41, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- @
Yupik: - given that the AfD is on notability grounds, it shouldn't really matter when the consideration occurs, so long as some decent BEFORE sweeps are done, since there either will be, or won't be, some suitable references in the ether to find.
Nosebagbear (
talk)
20:55, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- There are articles on her on Swedish websites, but I don't have access to them since they're behind a paywall. I can go through the Sámi ones, but not this week; I'm swamped with workwork. - Yupik ( talk) 21:10, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- @
Yupik: - given that the AfD is on notability grounds, it shouldn't really matter when the consideration occurs, so long as some decent BEFORE sweeps are done, since there either will be, or won't be, some suitable references in the ether to find.
Nosebagbear (
talk)
20:55, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- Comment I think someone who is fluent in Swedish should look at the sources. I'm pinging Ipigott, since he's a polyglot. :) Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 20:53, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
-
Megalibrarygirl: Thanks for pinging me. The
description from Swedish TV in connection with the Rubus Arcticus awards is impressive. I'm pretty sure Yukip will also be able to come up with more background from Sami and other Scandiavian sources.--
Ipigott (
talk)
07:52, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- That sounds promising, there's a good amount of time left, so hopefully something will turn up.
Nosebagbear (
talk)
20:55, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- Here's what she has in the Ájtte museum collections - Yupik ( talk) 21:19, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- That sounds promising, there's a good amount of time left, so hopefully something will turn up.
Nosebagbear (
talk)
20:55, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep: From the awards she has received, she already appears sufficiently notable in Sweden.-- Ipigott ( talk) 07:52, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - I believe the sources are sufficient to show GNG, and she has received two significant awards. -- bonadea contributions talk 14:08, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.