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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 13:04, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
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Mass-created article made in violation of WP:MASSCREATE/ WP:MEATBOT based on the 2006 Iranian census, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Carlossuarez46 for all the gory details. The Iranian census gathered data by whatever the closest named landmark was, including pumps, factories, farms, bridges, individual houses and so-forth, all of which may be abadi and need not be populated, so this is not actually a legally-recognised community and thus fails WP:GEOLAND#1. GEONet Names Server is an unreliable source and therefore cannot fix this. Lack of significant coverage in reliable sources also means this fails WP:GNG.
The word qanat (underground aqueduct) is sometimes used for villages but equally used to simply indicate an underground aqueduct system - a common feature of this dry country. The Google Translate version of the Farsi name is "White Aqueduct". The co-ordinates on the map appear to be within the locality of Khorramabad, Arzuiyeh - the address of the local shop is given in GMaps as "Khorramabad, بافت،استان کرمان،، 7C3Q+VMC, Iran", though this may possibly indicate that both are really in Baft since the Google translate of the Farsi part of the name is " Baft, Kerman province" and it is unusual for the lowest-level part of the address to be romanised.
TL;DR there is nothing here that shows this place actually exists as a village, and plenty of good reasons to doubt that it does. The WP:BURDEN is therefore on people wanting to keep this article and others like it to show why it should be kept. FOARP ( talk) 12:54, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Iran. FOARP ( talk) 12:54, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, and at some point we're gonna have to start a discussion about whether or not any of these un-expandable geographic perma-stubs are needed. — VersaceSpace 🌃 13:05, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete You wanna see how many of these one/two-liners there are in Pakistan? It's a real issue - ripping them out of the Emirates was an Augean job but essential - WP had created a whole universe of non-places online... Best
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Alexandermcnabb - All created by Mr. Blofeld algorithmically, right? To Blofeld's credit, he at least stopped and has expressed regret at their creation.
FOARP (
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15:35, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- FOARP - The Emirates ones were by a now-blocked admin called John Carter. He got hold of a US 1970s gazetteer derived from a UAE 1960s one based on a 1950s survey of the UAE by the Brits. Two twits in puttees and shorts 70 years ago wandering around with a clipboard asking puzzled Bedouin 'Tell me, my good man, what is this place called?' and they'd shrug and say 'The Lovely Sand Dune' or whatever came to mind and so 'Nad Al Helou' was born. Soon enough you could order Deliveroo or have your teeth fixed in 'Nad Al Helou', the non-existent UAE city on Wikipedia. Sigh. Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 04:02, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
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Alexandermcnabb - All created by Mr. Blofeld algorithmically, right? To Blofeld's credit, he at least stopped and has expressed regret at their creation.
FOARP (
talk)
15:35, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 13:04, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
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- Qanat Sefid, Kerman ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Mass-created article made in violation of WP:MASSCREATE/ WP:MEATBOT based on the 2006 Iranian census, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Carlossuarez46 for all the gory details. The Iranian census gathered data by whatever the closest named landmark was, including pumps, factories, farms, bridges, individual houses and so-forth, all of which may be abadi and need not be populated, so this is not actually a legally-recognised community and thus fails WP:GEOLAND#1. GEONet Names Server is an unreliable source and therefore cannot fix this. Lack of significant coverage in reliable sources also means this fails WP:GNG.
The word qanat (underground aqueduct) is sometimes used for villages but equally used to simply indicate an underground aqueduct system - a common feature of this dry country. The Google Translate version of the Farsi name is "White Aqueduct". The co-ordinates on the map appear to be within the locality of Khorramabad, Arzuiyeh - the address of the local shop is given in GMaps as "Khorramabad, بافت،استان کرمان،، 7C3Q+VMC, Iran", though this may possibly indicate that both are really in Baft since the Google translate of the Farsi part of the name is " Baft, Kerman province" and it is unusual for the lowest-level part of the address to be romanised.
TL;DR there is nothing here that shows this place actually exists as a village, and plenty of good reasons to doubt that it does. The WP:BURDEN is therefore on people wanting to keep this article and others like it to show why it should be kept. FOARP ( talk) 12:54, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Iran. FOARP ( talk) 12:54, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, and at some point we're gonna have to start a discussion about whether or not any of these un-expandable geographic perma-stubs are needed. — VersaceSpace 🌃 13:05, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete You wanna see how many of these one/two-liners there are in Pakistan? It's a real issue - ripping them out of the Emirates was an Augean job but essential - WP had created a whole universe of non-places online... Best
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Alexandermcnabb - All created by Mr. Blofeld algorithmically, right? To Blofeld's credit, he at least stopped and has expressed regret at their creation.
FOARP (
talk)
15:35, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- FOARP - The Emirates ones were by a now-blocked admin called John Carter. He got hold of a US 1970s gazetteer derived from a UAE 1960s one based on a 1950s survey of the UAE by the Brits. Two twits in puttees and shorts 70 years ago wandering around with a clipboard asking puzzled Bedouin 'Tell me, my good man, what is this place called?' and they'd shrug and say 'The Lovely Sand Dune' or whatever came to mind and so 'Nad Al Helou' was born. Soon enough you could order Deliveroo or have your teeth fixed in 'Nad Al Helou', the non-existent UAE city on Wikipedia. Sigh. Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 04:02, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
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Alexandermcnabb - All created by Mr. Blofeld algorithmically, right? To Blofeld's credit, he at least stopped and has expressed regret at their creation.
FOARP (
talk)
15:35, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.