The result was redirect to Jean-Pierre Hallet#Pygmy Kitabu. As the only editor arguing for keep has merged the content, redirect seems to be the consensus here. Fabrictramp | talk to me 20:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Unnotable book that fails all options of WP:BK. This book has not "been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the book itself" (1) and it has not won any "major literary awards" (2). It also has not "been made or adapted with attribution into a motion picture that was released into multiple commercial theaters, or was aired on a nationally televised network or cable station in any country." Editors to the article claim the documentary Pygmies is based on the book, though the creator of the film, Hallet, does not actually say that. He says he wrote the book on the Efé Pygmies, then also wanted to make a documentary on them to provide a "visual depiction" shortly before the government planned to ban any photographing of them. [1] Either way, it is not a major film, having only been shown in one or two theaters in San Francisco of unknown commerical status. So it fails option 3. The book also has not he been "the subject of instruction at multiple grade schools, high schools, universities or post-graduate programs in any particular country" (4).
Finally, Jean-Pierre Hallet is not "so historically significant that any of his or her written works may be considered notable." Some editors on the article claim he is, however as I noted to them "So historically significant' would apply to people like Mother Theresa, the Pope, Shakespeare, Abe Lincoln, etc. who have are written about in history books Not a single humanitarian in a relatively obscure field who is not himself the subject of multiple books and with significant coverage in reliable sources." The reply was to accuse me of being prejudiced against the Pygmies, rather than provide any evidence this humanitarian is notable. A Google search does not support these claims at all, so the book fails criteria 5. Is Hallet notable? Certainly. Is he is "so historically significant" that all of his books are also notable? No. As such, this article should be deleted.
Additionally, it should be noted that there is an open suspected sockpuppetry case against the three major contributors to this article at -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 18:05, 12 July 2008 (UTC) reply
The movie was shown in Los Angeles and San Francisco (you claim above that it was shown only in San Francisco). A small run, yes. But don't create false facts. That is unethical. Furthermore, you are asserting a negative as fact. The book Pygmy Kitabu and the movie Pygmies were released in the same year, on the same topic, by the same author, with the same intent. It is unreasonable to contend that the movie was not largely based on the book, even if it is not credited explicitly (which neither you nor I can ascertain or disprove, since the credits of the movie are not before us.) Nutsheller ( talk) 03:13, 13 July 2008 (UTC) reply
The result was redirect to Jean-Pierre Hallet#Pygmy Kitabu. As the only editor arguing for keep has merged the content, redirect seems to be the consensus here. Fabrictramp | talk to me 20:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Unnotable book that fails all options of WP:BK. This book has not "been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the book itself" (1) and it has not won any "major literary awards" (2). It also has not "been made or adapted with attribution into a motion picture that was released into multiple commercial theaters, or was aired on a nationally televised network or cable station in any country." Editors to the article claim the documentary Pygmies is based on the book, though the creator of the film, Hallet, does not actually say that. He says he wrote the book on the Efé Pygmies, then also wanted to make a documentary on them to provide a "visual depiction" shortly before the government planned to ban any photographing of them. [1] Either way, it is not a major film, having only been shown in one or two theaters in San Francisco of unknown commerical status. So it fails option 3. The book also has not he been "the subject of instruction at multiple grade schools, high schools, universities or post-graduate programs in any particular country" (4).
Finally, Jean-Pierre Hallet is not "so historically significant that any of his or her written works may be considered notable." Some editors on the article claim he is, however as I noted to them "So historically significant' would apply to people like Mother Theresa, the Pope, Shakespeare, Abe Lincoln, etc. who have are written about in history books Not a single humanitarian in a relatively obscure field who is not himself the subject of multiple books and with significant coverage in reliable sources." The reply was to accuse me of being prejudiced against the Pygmies, rather than provide any evidence this humanitarian is notable. A Google search does not support these claims at all, so the book fails criteria 5. Is Hallet notable? Certainly. Is he is "so historically significant" that all of his books are also notable? No. As such, this article should be deleted.
Additionally, it should be noted that there is an open suspected sockpuppetry case against the three major contributors to this article at -- AnmaFinotera ( talk · contribs) 18:05, 12 July 2008 (UTC) reply
The movie was shown in Los Angeles and San Francisco (you claim above that it was shown only in San Francisco). A small run, yes. But don't create false facts. That is unethical. Furthermore, you are asserting a negative as fact. The book Pygmy Kitabu and the movie Pygmies were released in the same year, on the same topic, by the same author, with the same intent. It is unreasonable to contend that the movie was not largely based on the book, even if it is not credited explicitly (which neither you nor I can ascertain or disprove, since the credits of the movie are not before us.) Nutsheller ( talk) 03:13, 13 July 2008 (UTC) reply