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No indication that this street is anymore notable than any other in Brooklyn. A few local newspaper articles do not establish notability.
Rusf10 (
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15:27, 27 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete. This is an instance of
WP:MILL; it is a relatively short street, extending from Ocean Parkway to Third Avenue, almost entirely within
Windsor Terrace, Brooklyn. Numerous parallel streets are just as long, passing through the same topography and street grids, but this has an article due to its width and the fact that it's a named street rather than a numbered one. The only portion of this article that is notable is the history. That section can be incorporated into the Windsor Terrace article, which does talk about the street grid. I am not convinced that having subway stations or notable buildings itself makes the street notable, despite it having two stations (specifically not the
Prospect Avenue station (IRT White Plains Road Line), which is another street altogether in the Bronx) and an NRHP-listed building. Lots of streets in NYC have their own subway stations and NRHP buildings on them, which does not make the street itself notable, but is just evidence that the three major subway companies in NYC had an intense competition.
epicgenius (
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15:44, 27 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete Does not meet notability standards for city streets, given the lack of focused citations that are beyond trivial coverage. SounderBruce00:49, 28 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Analyzing the sources, The Brooklyn Theatre Index appears to be just that, an index that provides listings of locations on Prospect Avenue (and many other streets, for that matter), and the existence of perhaps important venues along it does not confer notability to the thoroughfare itself. The Long Island Herald piece is primarily about Dr. Frederick Grubé, with only a few sentences about the street itself as a journalistic backdrop for the rest of the piece. I'm not certain about the Forgotten NY piece, but it just seems to be another directory of information about random sights and buildings along the street based on observations (and ostensibly to promote their tour business) without any mention as to why the street itself should be deemed notable other than the first part of the first sentence. --Kinut/c07:43, 29 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. There are two major subway stations at this major thoroughfare in
Brooklyn. Many important institutions are on this street: the
Grand Prospect Hall, P.S. 10, R.C. and Episcopal churches, restaurants, professional offices, retail stores, one of New York City's few charging stations for
electric cars, etc.
Bearian (
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21:23, 29 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Further, the existence of subway stations does not make a street notable. These can easily be construed to be located in Windsor Terrace rather than Prospect Avenue and it will still be just as valid of a claim.
epicgenius (
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19:20, 8 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete The claims of notability do not add up. Directory listings, a mention in coverage in the local paper about a person who lived on the street, and so on do not add up to notability. If you cannot name the allegedly notable church, I have doubts it is notable. The use of the laws of a state as a source is an example of using primary documents. The article is entirely sourced to a sub-city level paper and there are not sources presented above that represent broader coverage of this roadway.
John Pack Lambert (
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18:55, 1 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. How would it benefit any reader to lose this information, and how does it harm anyone to keep it? Merging and redirecting is second best, but not necessary.
Station1 (
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21:43, 12 May 2020 (UTC)reply
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No indication that this street is anymore notable than any other in Brooklyn. A few local newspaper articles do not establish notability.
Rusf10 (
talk)
15:27, 27 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete. This is an instance of
WP:MILL; it is a relatively short street, extending from Ocean Parkway to Third Avenue, almost entirely within
Windsor Terrace, Brooklyn. Numerous parallel streets are just as long, passing through the same topography and street grids, but this has an article due to its width and the fact that it's a named street rather than a numbered one. The only portion of this article that is notable is the history. That section can be incorporated into the Windsor Terrace article, which does talk about the street grid. I am not convinced that having subway stations or notable buildings itself makes the street notable, despite it having two stations (specifically not the
Prospect Avenue station (IRT White Plains Road Line), which is another street altogether in the Bronx) and an NRHP-listed building. Lots of streets in NYC have their own subway stations and NRHP buildings on them, which does not make the street itself notable, but is just evidence that the three major subway companies in NYC had an intense competition.
epicgenius (
talk)
15:44, 27 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete Does not meet notability standards for city streets, given the lack of focused citations that are beyond trivial coverage. SounderBruce00:49, 28 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Analyzing the sources, The Brooklyn Theatre Index appears to be just that, an index that provides listings of locations on Prospect Avenue (and many other streets, for that matter), and the existence of perhaps important venues along it does not confer notability to the thoroughfare itself. The Long Island Herald piece is primarily about Dr. Frederick Grubé, with only a few sentences about the street itself as a journalistic backdrop for the rest of the piece. I'm not certain about the Forgotten NY piece, but it just seems to be another directory of information about random sights and buildings along the street based on observations (and ostensibly to promote their tour business) without any mention as to why the street itself should be deemed notable other than the first part of the first sentence. --Kinut/c07:43, 29 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. There are two major subway stations at this major thoroughfare in
Brooklyn. Many important institutions are on this street: the
Grand Prospect Hall, P.S. 10, R.C. and Episcopal churches, restaurants, professional offices, retail stores, one of New York City's few charging stations for
electric cars, etc.
Bearian (
talk)
21:23, 29 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Further, the existence of subway stations does not make a street notable. These can easily be construed to be located in Windsor Terrace rather than Prospect Avenue and it will still be just as valid of a claim.
epicgenius (
talk)
19:20, 8 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete The claims of notability do not add up. Directory listings, a mention in coverage in the local paper about a person who lived on the street, and so on do not add up to notability. If you cannot name the allegedly notable church, I have doubts it is notable. The use of the laws of a state as a source is an example of using primary documents. The article is entirely sourced to a sub-city level paper and there are not sources presented above that represent broader coverage of this roadway.
John Pack Lambert (
talk)
18:55, 1 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. How would it benefit any reader to lose this information, and how does it harm anyone to keep it? Merging and redirecting is second best, but not necessary.
Station1 (
talk)
21:43, 12 May 2020 (UTC)reply
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