The result was redirect to List of government schemes in India. This AFD has been open for some time, and in my mind, the consensus is reasonably clear, even if the subject matter seems to be somewhat controversial. While I note that there are numerous !votes to keep the article, the arguments of those who have voted to delete carry stronger weight, specifically the arguments about neutrality. While there may be some suitable content that can be merged into the target article, I recommend this be done selectively and carefully, taking into account the issues addressed here regarding the neutrality of the content, and the quality of the sources. ( non-admin closure) Steven Crossin 12:04, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
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Fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE, We already have List of government schemes in India. Razer Text me 04:59, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Merge. There is public interest to learn about this. I suggest we merge this into List of government schemes in India subins2000 ( talk) 15:04, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
DeleteBy and large all government policies are based on similar principles of social justice and empowerment, however this does not mean all policies can be rolled into one and called copies of each other. Most of the mentioned sources do not in any way substantiate the claims of rename as alleged by the page. E.g. the Basic Savings Bank Deposit Account differs significantly from the Jan Dhan Yojna in terms of its execution parameters. VIz. The former was largely an advisory issued for PSUs wheras the latter firstly extends to the Pvt Sector as well and contains well defined targets and timelines. 2) Ultimately even though the former was in action since 2005, there was no action on the grounnd and no tracking mechanism to count the number of Accounts created. Till date there is no reliable citation to ascribe the accounts created under this scheme. There are such differences across multiple dimensions on several such schemes as claimed t be renamed. Hence there really is no reasons for this kind of work to exist on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amathur2k ( talk • contribs) 13:17, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Keep. The article mentioned by proposer User:Razer2115 doesn't capture the act of renaming by the current government. The number of Pageviews to the article shows that there is public interest to learn about this. Chirag ( talk) 05:38, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Keep. This page specifically talks about program changes by the current Modi government. This is unique, not covered by any other page and the title of the page itself suggests that it is limited to changes by this Modi government only and not by others. For other govts, some other page can be created by others. As explained by Chirag there are enough pageviews to show that there is genuine public interest served by this page. This page must stay. hardthinker 06:23, 14 June 2017 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhardwaj.ankur ( talk • contribs) — Bhardwaj.ankur ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Keep. This page should stay up. It keeps people informed. This page must stay. KeralaBlaster 11:46, 13 June 2017 (UTC)— 50.64.160.243 ( talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Keep. This page should stay. There is absoultely no reason for it to be deleted. All arguements against keeping the page seems to be highly illogical. What does it mean when someone says it's not just renaming but a lot of other things too. While I really don't agree, isn't name change also a part of it? And how does it change when we call a spade a spade?— 203.99.204.141 ( talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Remove. I don't quite see the purpose of this article. Although unstated, the implication is that changing the name is the only thing that has been done to these programs, which is incorrect for most programs listed on the page. Further, many of the sources listed are either not reliable (opinion pieces) or do not support the claim that the program was simply renamed. If there has been significant revamping of the program, I don't think it makes sense to say that a program has been "renamed" just because an old one was replaced with a new one having similar goals. Diffeomorphicvoodoo ( talk) 06:00, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
his article is part of political propaganda that seems to downgrade working of present government. although it is the fact that new scheme by Modi governmet subsumed the older scheme, but to claim that they were only renamed is far from truth. Just to give one example Jan Dhan yojana went far beyond the mandate of Basic Saving bank deposit of previous government. It actually forced banks to open no-frill accounts and link them to Aadhar card. Also in terms of success two could not be compared. And it should be kept in mind that it has always been policy of Indian government to subsume all the related schemes in the new ones, and this could not be termed as mere renaming. The title of page is defamatory and misleading. The linked provided as reference also does not claim renaming.
Keep The list is unique and the contention that Central Govt led by Narendra Modi has been renaming and repackaging schemes has been covered in the Indian media on and off. for example [1] [2] [3] etc. In fact renaming old schemes was an election agenda in 2014 and a part of election speeches. [4]. In case the article veers towards a biased propaganda like language, it should be edited and propaganda material removed. ChunnuBhai ( talk) 06:49, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
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comment votes have been deleted on this page. Admin please note. The article has a listing of facts. With citations.
Keep. This is a useful list that accurately represents the policy debate in India. That several schemes have been renamed has been pointed out by several commentators and economists. Do note that there is a significant difference between stating facts in a neutral tone and political propaganda. One of the Remove comment above indicates that this is downgrading the work of the present government. Such language itself is an indication of bias, and is not rooted in facts. Where schemes have been renamed with changes, such changes can be presented in a separate column. However, this list itself is an important compilation of information and falls under a larger set of renamed institutions, towns and infrastructure projects in India. Multitrackdrifting ( talk) 07:05, 14 June 2017 (UTC)— Multitrackdrifting ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
The result was redirect to List of government schemes in India. This AFD has been open for some time, and in my mind, the consensus is reasonably clear, even if the subject matter seems to be somewhat controversial. While I note that there are numerous !votes to keep the article, the arguments of those who have voted to delete carry stronger weight, specifically the arguments about neutrality. While there may be some suitable content that can be merged into the target article, I recommend this be done selectively and carefully, taking into account the issues addressed here regarding the neutrality of the content, and the quality of the sources. ( non-admin closure) Steven Crossin 12:04, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
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Fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE, We already have List of government schemes in India. Razer Text me 04:59, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Merge. There is public interest to learn about this. I suggest we merge this into List of government schemes in India subins2000 ( talk) 15:04, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
DeleteBy and large all government policies are based on similar principles of social justice and empowerment, however this does not mean all policies can be rolled into one and called copies of each other. Most of the mentioned sources do not in any way substantiate the claims of rename as alleged by the page. E.g. the Basic Savings Bank Deposit Account differs significantly from the Jan Dhan Yojna in terms of its execution parameters. VIz. The former was largely an advisory issued for PSUs wheras the latter firstly extends to the Pvt Sector as well and contains well defined targets and timelines. 2) Ultimately even though the former was in action since 2005, there was no action on the grounnd and no tracking mechanism to count the number of Accounts created. Till date there is no reliable citation to ascribe the accounts created under this scheme. There are such differences across multiple dimensions on several such schemes as claimed t be renamed. Hence there really is no reasons for this kind of work to exist on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amathur2k ( talk • contribs) 13:17, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Keep. The article mentioned by proposer User:Razer2115 doesn't capture the act of renaming by the current government. The number of Pageviews to the article shows that there is public interest to learn about this. Chirag ( talk) 05:38, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Keep. This page specifically talks about program changes by the current Modi government. This is unique, not covered by any other page and the title of the page itself suggests that it is limited to changes by this Modi government only and not by others. For other govts, some other page can be created by others. As explained by Chirag there are enough pageviews to show that there is genuine public interest served by this page. This page must stay. hardthinker 06:23, 14 June 2017 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhardwaj.ankur ( talk • contribs) — Bhardwaj.ankur ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Keep. This page should stay up. It keeps people informed. This page must stay. KeralaBlaster 11:46, 13 June 2017 (UTC)— 50.64.160.243 ( talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Keep. This page should stay. There is absoultely no reason for it to be deleted. All arguements against keeping the page seems to be highly illogical. What does it mean when someone says it's not just renaming but a lot of other things too. While I really don't agree, isn't name change also a part of it? And how does it change when we call a spade a spade?— 203.99.204.141 ( talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Remove. I don't quite see the purpose of this article. Although unstated, the implication is that changing the name is the only thing that has been done to these programs, which is incorrect for most programs listed on the page. Further, many of the sources listed are either not reliable (opinion pieces) or do not support the claim that the program was simply renamed. If there has been significant revamping of the program, I don't think it makes sense to say that a program has been "renamed" just because an old one was replaced with a new one having similar goals. Diffeomorphicvoodoo ( talk) 06:00, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
his article is part of political propaganda that seems to downgrade working of present government. although it is the fact that new scheme by Modi governmet subsumed the older scheme, but to claim that they were only renamed is far from truth. Just to give one example Jan Dhan yojana went far beyond the mandate of Basic Saving bank deposit of previous government. It actually forced banks to open no-frill accounts and link them to Aadhar card. Also in terms of success two could not be compared. And it should be kept in mind that it has always been policy of Indian government to subsume all the related schemes in the new ones, and this could not be termed as mere renaming. The title of page is defamatory and misleading. The linked provided as reference also does not claim renaming.
Keep The list is unique and the contention that Central Govt led by Narendra Modi has been renaming and repackaging schemes has been covered in the Indian media on and off. for example [1] [2] [3] etc. In fact renaming old schemes was an election agenda in 2014 and a part of election speeches. [4]. In case the article veers towards a biased propaganda like language, it should be edited and propaganda material removed. ChunnuBhai ( talk) 06:49, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
References
comment votes have been deleted on this page. Admin please note. The article has a listing of facts. With citations.
Keep. This is a useful list that accurately represents the policy debate in India. That several schemes have been renamed has been pointed out by several commentators and economists. Do note that there is a significant difference between stating facts in a neutral tone and political propaganda. One of the Remove comment above indicates that this is downgrading the work of the present government. Such language itself is an indication of bias, and is not rooted in facts. Where schemes have been renamed with changes, such changes can be presented in a separate column. However, this list itself is an important compilation of information and falls under a larger set of renamed institutions, towns and infrastructure projects in India. Multitrackdrifting ( talk) 07:05, 14 June 2017 (UTC)— Multitrackdrifting ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.