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The result was delete. and salt, as this is the third deletion
JohnCD (
talk) 13:45, 24 June 2016 (UTC)reply
This future airline does not appear to meet the Notability Guidelines at this point. The only mentions I can find of the airline are on other wikis, and a couple blog like sites.
The article was originally tagged for CSD G3 as a hoax. The limited search results I did find, in my opinion, push it out of the obvious Hoax category for speedy deletion. That said, its either a Hoax, or
WP:TOOSOON.
Monty845 13:19, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Speedy delete per my previous CSD nomination. Based from this
Facebook link, it looks this airline is obviously fake. -
WayKurat (
talk) 13:44, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete - As noted above, the page is either a hoax or
WP:TOOSOON. No reliable sources confirming its launch.
Meatsgains (
talk) 13:45, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete per
WP:TOOSOON and
WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL, I'm not sure if it's a hoax or not, but since it doesn't actually exist yet, and thus has no notable coverage, delete. -
SanAnMan (
talk) 14:33, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
SNOW Delete as there's sufficient consensus, searches have found nothing better and it seems noticeable there's simply excessive questionability here, both the apparent founding date but absolutely no sources and simply everything overall therefore.
SwisterTwistertalk 17:19, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete as per above.
Ljgua124 (
talk) 02:52, 18 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Speedy Delete and
Salt as a hoax that someone has gone to a lot of trouble over, spending time to twice create a WP article, among other things. [What follows is partly copied from my post at the beginning of May on the Talk page of the first Pride Airways article, which was restored at my request so I wouldn't have to spend hours trawling for supporting evidence again].
There is no website for the company, but someone went to the effort of setting up a
Pride Airways Youtube channel, then copying
this Youtube video showing a Delta Air Lines flight from New York to Los Angeles and
representing it as a Pride Airways flight; and doing a similar thing with
this video, copied and re-presented as
this. There is a
Facebook page, that was linked to in the first incarnation article and that at the time consisted only of side drawings of aircraft; when I checked the Facebook page 12-14 hours ago I found these side drawings of aircraft had apparently been removed and replaced with two obviously-photoshopped digital photos of a Boeing 767 purportedly in Pride Airways livery. The only other web presence I could find - seven weeks ago or now - is
a page on Wikimapia, which was last modified the same day the first version of the article was created. The IATA airline Code originally listed in the first article's infobox was that of
Biman Bangladesh Airlines, while the ICAO Code displayed was PDA, which has not been assigned to any airline.
I am of the opinion that there is a connection with gay pride. My opinion is based on the name itself; the colours used on the logo of the "airline"; the person named as Managing Director in the original article (
Danton Remoto, who appears to be a gay activist); and the person originally named as CEO, who may be
this Facebook account with ties to
this Facebook account. The organization associated with the Facebook account is mentioned in the WP article
LGBT culture in the Philippines.
The above-mentioned things in the first incarnation of the article (cached version of first incarnation on a WP mirror site
here) have been sanitised from this version, perhaps in an effort to make the hoax less obvious. The salient points are that there is no website or any mention in any aviation-related media, or even any mention in Filipino media; all there is, is the Facebook page with faked images; the YouTube channel with faked videos; and the user-edited Wikimapia.
YSSYguy (
talk) 07:53, 18 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom also. No reliable sources yet on the supposed opening of the airline by 2017. -
Supergabbyshoe (
talk2me)
Delete Unsourced and likely hoax. — Music1201talk 04:39, 21 June 2016 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. and salt, as this is the third deletion
JohnCD (
talk) 13:45, 24 June 2016 (UTC)reply
This future airline does not appear to meet the Notability Guidelines at this point. The only mentions I can find of the airline are on other wikis, and a couple blog like sites.
The article was originally tagged for CSD G3 as a hoax. The limited search results I did find, in my opinion, push it out of the obvious Hoax category for speedy deletion. That said, its either a Hoax, or
WP:TOOSOON.
Monty845 13:19, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Speedy delete per my previous CSD nomination. Based from this
Facebook link, it looks this airline is obviously fake. -
WayKurat (
talk) 13:44, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete - As noted above, the page is either a hoax or
WP:TOOSOON. No reliable sources confirming its launch.
Meatsgains (
talk) 13:45, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete per
WP:TOOSOON and
WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL, I'm not sure if it's a hoax or not, but since it doesn't actually exist yet, and thus has no notable coverage, delete. -
SanAnMan (
talk) 14:33, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
SNOW Delete as there's sufficient consensus, searches have found nothing better and it seems noticeable there's simply excessive questionability here, both the apparent founding date but absolutely no sources and simply everything overall therefore.
SwisterTwistertalk 17:19, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete as per above.
Ljgua124 (
talk) 02:52, 18 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Speedy Delete and
Salt as a hoax that someone has gone to a lot of trouble over, spending time to twice create a WP article, among other things. [What follows is partly copied from my post at the beginning of May on the Talk page of the first Pride Airways article, which was restored at my request so I wouldn't have to spend hours trawling for supporting evidence again].
There is no website for the company, but someone went to the effort of setting up a
Pride Airways Youtube channel, then copying
this Youtube video showing a Delta Air Lines flight from New York to Los Angeles and
representing it as a Pride Airways flight; and doing a similar thing with
this video, copied and re-presented as
this. There is a
Facebook page, that was linked to in the first incarnation article and that at the time consisted only of side drawings of aircraft; when I checked the Facebook page 12-14 hours ago I found these side drawings of aircraft had apparently been removed and replaced with two obviously-photoshopped digital photos of a Boeing 767 purportedly in Pride Airways livery. The only other web presence I could find - seven weeks ago or now - is
a page on Wikimapia, which was last modified the same day the first version of the article was created. The IATA airline Code originally listed in the first article's infobox was that of
Biman Bangladesh Airlines, while the ICAO Code displayed was PDA, which has not been assigned to any airline.
I am of the opinion that there is a connection with gay pride. My opinion is based on the name itself; the colours used on the logo of the "airline"; the person named as Managing Director in the original article (
Danton Remoto, who appears to be a gay activist); and the person originally named as CEO, who may be
this Facebook account with ties to
this Facebook account. The organization associated with the Facebook account is mentioned in the WP article
LGBT culture in the Philippines.
The above-mentioned things in the first incarnation of the article (cached version of first incarnation on a WP mirror site
here) have been sanitised from this version, perhaps in an effort to make the hoax less obvious. The salient points are that there is no website or any mention in any aviation-related media, or even any mention in Filipino media; all there is, is the Facebook page with faked images; the YouTube channel with faked videos; and the user-edited Wikimapia.
YSSYguy (
talk) 07:53, 18 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom also. No reliable sources yet on the supposed opening of the airline by 2017. -
Supergabbyshoe (
talk2me)
Delete Unsourced and likely hoax. — Music1201talk 04:39, 21 June 2016 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.