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The result was merge to Stefano Valdegamberi. Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 01:52, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Popular Future
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Not a party, but a small group born in the regional council from the split of other parties. Excluding a few articles about its foundation in the regional council, the name of this group appears in the sources exclusively next to the name of the chairman Stefano Valdegamberi: in practice, the sources concern the political activity of the latter, not of Popular Future. The article itself tells nothing about this group. At most it could be merged with Stefano Valdegamberi. Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 20:07, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Politics, Christianity, and Italy. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:58, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Party or not (its activities and members, including a former member of the Chamber of Deputies, indicate it was a party), the subject counted three members out of 60 in the Regional Council of Veneto, a region with 5 million people (more than several countries in Europe), for three years (2012–2015) and played a distinctive role in Venetian politics. Its leader was re-elected to the Council also in 2015 and 2020 in Luca Zaia's personal list and, differently from what is written in the article, the party continued to be active even after 2015 (see [1]). When evaluating this subject, we should not be influenced by a recentism and we should not overlook the importance of regional and local politics (correctly, there are also municipal parties in Wikipedia!). However, if regrettably there is no consensus on keeping the article, I hope we can at least merge it into Stefano Valdegamberi. -- Checco ( talk) 16:14, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- You said that "Its leader was re-elected to the Council also in 2015 and 2020 in Luca Zaia's personal list" ": indeed, he was elected in the Zaia List, what does Popular Future have to do with it? The fact that it was a party is still to be demonstrated, however, as I have already stated, I would agree to merge it with Stefano Valdegamberi.-- Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 17:26, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 23:42, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
- Comment @ Checco as I have already said, I would be in favor of merging this page with Stefano Valdegamberi. On the other hand, I do not find it useful to keep this article standalone: I have not found any source mentioning this group / party that is not directly related to the political activity of Valdegamberi himself. -- Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 07:42, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Stefano Valdegamberi. Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 01:52, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Popular Future
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Not a party, but a small group born in the regional council from the split of other parties. Excluding a few articles about its foundation in the regional council, the name of this group appears in the sources exclusively next to the name of the chairman Stefano Valdegamberi: in practice, the sources concern the political activity of the latter, not of Popular Future. The article itself tells nothing about this group. At most it could be merged with Stefano Valdegamberi. Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 20:07, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Politics, Christianity, and Italy. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:58, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Party or not (its activities and members, including a former member of the Chamber of Deputies, indicate it was a party), the subject counted three members out of 60 in the Regional Council of Veneto, a region with 5 million people (more than several countries in Europe), for three years (2012–2015) and played a distinctive role in Venetian politics. Its leader was re-elected to the Council also in 2015 and 2020 in Luca Zaia's personal list and, differently from what is written in the article, the party continued to be active even after 2015 (see [1]). When evaluating this subject, we should not be influenced by a recentism and we should not overlook the importance of regional and local politics (correctly, there are also municipal parties in Wikipedia!). However, if regrettably there is no consensus on keeping the article, I hope we can at least merge it into Stefano Valdegamberi. -- Checco ( talk) 16:14, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- You said that "Its leader was re-elected to the Council also in 2015 and 2020 in Luca Zaia's personal list" ": indeed, he was elected in the Zaia List, what does Popular Future have to do with it? The fact that it was a party is still to be demonstrated, however, as I have already stated, I would agree to merge it with Stefano Valdegamberi.-- Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 17:26, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 23:42, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
- Comment @ Checco as I have already said, I would be in favor of merging this page with Stefano Valdegamberi. On the other hand, I do not find it useful to keep this article standalone: I have not found any source mentioning this group / party that is not directly related to the political activity of Valdegamberi himself. -- Scia Della Cometa ( talk) 07:42, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.