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The subject has only received in-depth coverage from reliable sources in connection with allegations of wrongdoing against her mother. (Coverage in the
Los Angeles Times,
Atavist magazine.) The article currently contains personal information based on low-quality or promotional sources. Since the subject is a minor, I suggest deleting this article, without prejudice to the creation of a different article about her mother or her mother's production company.
gnu57 22:39, 13 February 2023 (UTC)reply
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gnu57 22:40, 13 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep. Seems notable, although urgent improvements are needed in the article with regards to poorly cited unproven allegations of criminal activity
@
CT55555: Those references centre on the mother's recent controversies. I don't think the daughter is independently notable. (Also,
WP:AVOIDVICTIM might apply here.)
gnu57 03:26, 14 February 2023 (UTC)reply
I think they contain enough significant coverage about Piper Rockelle.
CT55555(
talk) 04:17, 14 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - I agree with the nominator on the matter of criminal allegations and the fact that the subject is a minor. I also noticed that the Los Angeles Times and Atavist articles are near-copies of each other. Her article says that she starred in Mani (web series) but she was only a supporting player, and it says that she starred in Chicken Girls but she is not mentioned at that show's article. Otherwise she is in the news indirectly due to the criminal allegations, but the allegations have been made by different actors and they are against a different person (her mother), so the connection is tangential at best despite appearances of her name in the news. Outside of that debacle, Piper herself is only visible in the usual promotional and social media sites. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS) 15:39, 14 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - I made a
WP:BLP-based edit to remove content from the article, which also appeared to be a
WP:COATRACK. I searched for more sources online, and significant coverage in reliable sources seems focused on allegations related to her mother, not Rockelle, as well as the lawsuits (they are counter-suing), which seems relevant per
WP:INVALIDBIO,
WP:VICTIM, and
WP:BLPCRIME. I also agree with Doomsdayer520's assessment above, and I found some tabloid/sensationalist coverage (e.g.
WP:TMZ and related
churnalism). There does not appear to be significant support for notability in independent and reliable sources to support a
WP:BLP article.
Beccaynr (
talk) 23:10, 14 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. For the reasons stated in the nomination.
BoyTheKingCanDance (
talk) 02:52, 16 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete Given the potential to change the landscape and the amount of coverage it has received, an article could be written about the lawsuit once it's all settled, and Rockelle makes sense to discuss therein, but she does not appear notable as an actor right now. StarMississippi 17:12, 20 February 2023 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The subject has only received in-depth coverage from reliable sources in connection with allegations of wrongdoing against her mother. (Coverage in the
Los Angeles Times,
Atavist magazine.) The article currently contains personal information based on low-quality or promotional sources. Since the subject is a minor, I suggest deleting this article, without prejudice to the creation of a different article about her mother or her mother's production company.
gnu57 22:39, 13 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the
deletion sorting lists for the following topics:
Women and
Internet.
gnu57 22:40, 13 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep. Seems notable, although urgent improvements are needed in the article with regards to poorly cited unproven allegations of criminal activity
@
CT55555: Those references centre on the mother's recent controversies. I don't think the daughter is independently notable. (Also,
WP:AVOIDVICTIM might apply here.)
gnu57 03:26, 14 February 2023 (UTC)reply
I think they contain enough significant coverage about Piper Rockelle.
CT55555(
talk) 04:17, 14 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - I agree with the nominator on the matter of criminal allegations and the fact that the subject is a minor. I also noticed that the Los Angeles Times and Atavist articles are near-copies of each other. Her article says that she starred in Mani (web series) but she was only a supporting player, and it says that she starred in Chicken Girls but she is not mentioned at that show's article. Otherwise she is in the news indirectly due to the criminal allegations, but the allegations have been made by different actors and they are against a different person (her mother), so the connection is tangential at best despite appearances of her name in the news. Outside of that debacle, Piper herself is only visible in the usual promotional and social media sites. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (
TALK|
CONTRIBS) 15:39, 14 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - I made a
WP:BLP-based edit to remove content from the article, which also appeared to be a
WP:COATRACK. I searched for more sources online, and significant coverage in reliable sources seems focused on allegations related to her mother, not Rockelle, as well as the lawsuits (they are counter-suing), which seems relevant per
WP:INVALIDBIO,
WP:VICTIM, and
WP:BLPCRIME. I also agree with Doomsdayer520's assessment above, and I found some tabloid/sensationalist coverage (e.g.
WP:TMZ and related
churnalism). There does not appear to be significant support for notability in independent and reliable sources to support a
WP:BLP article.
Beccaynr (
talk) 23:10, 14 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. For the reasons stated in the nomination.
BoyTheKingCanDance (
talk) 02:52, 16 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete Given the potential to change the landscape and the amount of coverage it has received, an article could be written about the lawsuit once it's all settled, and Rockelle makes sense to discuss therein, but she does not appear notable as an actor right now. StarMississippi 17:12, 20 February 2023 (UTC)reply
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