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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) ミラ P 04:23, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Peg Norman
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- Does not meet WP:POLITICIAN and is not a notable filmmaker, nothing since My Left Breast.-- NL19931993 ( talk) 14:40, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep
award winning film maker/Cinematographer. She has non-trivial coverage in secondary sources:
The Telegram, and
in the CBC, again in
The Telegram. There is more so this is a keep per
WP:NEXIST.
WP:FILMMAKER states that an individual is notable if
"The person has created a significant or well-known work that has been the subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews" and/or if
"The person's work has won significant critical attention". So
WP:POLITICIAN is not the yardstick by which we measure this person.
WP:GNG and or
WP:FILMMAKER are met.
Lightburst (
talk) 15:59, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- I fail to see how an article about dryer balls rises above WP:NOTNEWS. It is local interest coverage to fill space, not reliable journalism. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! ⚓ 20:46, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - as per Lightburst's findings of significant coverage. She meets WP:FILMMAKER as she has received numerous awards for her work. Netherzone ( talk) 19:01, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Notability is not temporary, and does not have time limits on it — if she qualified for inclusion on My Left Breast itself, then the fact that she hasn't done any further work in film since then, and has instead moved on to other endeavours, is not a demerit. We are an encyclopedia, not just a directory of current pop culture topics — once a person has passed our inclusion standards, they stay notable forever, and do not have to retain a presence in the current news cycle to keep their notability. If that were how it worked, we would have to delete our articles about almost every human being who isn't still in the same job that made them notable in the first place, and every person who has died — which would be the vast majority of all our articles about humans. Bearcat ( talk) 17:11, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Per above, and meets GNG. Gleeanon409 ( talk) 18:08, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Merge to My Left Breast, the minor, Indy film that is Norman's only claim to fame. NotButtigieg ( talk) 07:33, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
- Merge to My Left Breast. Its the only reason her article was written, and sources do not show significant coverage of Norman, but rather of her film. Her political career is not itself notable either. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! ⚓ 20:41, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Per above. I don't see the need to merge with My Left Breast. Ambrosiawater ( talk) 02:40, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) ミラ P 04:23, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Peg Norman
AfDs for this article:
- Peg Norman ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
- Does not meet WP:POLITICIAN and is not a notable filmmaker, nothing since My Left Breast.-- NL19931993 ( talk) 14:40, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Lightburst ( talk) 15:15, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Lightburst ( talk) 15:15, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Lightburst ( talk) 15:15, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. Lightburst ( talk) 15:44, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep
award winning film maker/Cinematographer. She has non-trivial coverage in secondary sources:
The Telegram, and
in the CBC, again in
The Telegram. There is more so this is a keep per
WP:NEXIST.
WP:FILMMAKER states that an individual is notable if
"The person has created a significant or well-known work that has been the subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews" and/or if
"The person's work has won significant critical attention". So
WP:POLITICIAN is not the yardstick by which we measure this person.
WP:GNG and or
WP:FILMMAKER are met.
Lightburst (
talk) 15:59, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- I fail to see how an article about dryer balls rises above WP:NOTNEWS. It is local interest coverage to fill space, not reliable journalism. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! ⚓ 20:46, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - as per Lightburst's findings of significant coverage. She meets WP:FILMMAKER as she has received numerous awards for her work. Netherzone ( talk) 19:01, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Notability is not temporary, and does not have time limits on it — if she qualified for inclusion on My Left Breast itself, then the fact that she hasn't done any further work in film since then, and has instead moved on to other endeavours, is not a demerit. We are an encyclopedia, not just a directory of current pop culture topics — once a person has passed our inclusion standards, they stay notable forever, and do not have to retain a presence in the current news cycle to keep their notability. If that were how it worked, we would have to delete our articles about almost every human being who isn't still in the same job that made them notable in the first place, and every person who has died — which would be the vast majority of all our articles about humans. Bearcat ( talk) 17:11, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Per above, and meets GNG. Gleeanon409 ( talk) 18:08, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Merge to My Left Breast, the minor, Indy film that is Norman's only claim to fame. NotButtigieg ( talk) 07:33, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
- Merge to My Left Breast. Its the only reason her article was written, and sources do not show significant coverage of Norman, but rather of her film. Her political career is not itself notable either. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! ⚓ 20:41, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Per above. I don't see the need to merge with My Left Breast. Ambrosiawater ( talk) 02:40, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
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