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The result was delete. Links to the purported "numerous articles" have not been provided. Sandstein 13:37, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
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Sources fail to establish notability, topic fails WP:NCORP requirements HighKing ++ 19:46, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep very notable financial holding company, there have been numerous articles in the FT + WSJ, etc about this company. Devoke water 20:25, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Really? Post links to those references please.
HighKing
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16:42, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- During the 80’s Pargesa was a very high flying financial conglomerate under the control of two very high profile businessmen Albert Frère + Paul Desmarais, it owned Groupe Bruxelles Lambert + effectively controlled Drexel Burnham Lambert. It had a very high profile, there were numerous articles in the financial press on a daily, weekly, monthly basis. Since these two businessmen have retired the company now has a low profile + is rarely mentioned in the financial press. -- Devoke water 10:59, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- It seems that the company did have a bigger profile in the 1980's, but even if references to this coverage could be found it seems that it would still not pass WP:NCORP, as the reporting of normal business transactions is almost always considered trivial coverage. SailingInABathTub ( talk) 14:17, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Really? Post links to those references please.
HighKing
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16:42, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, only trivial coverage found, fails WP:NCORP. SailingInABathTub ( talk) 09:52, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Fails NCORP. SK2242 ( talk) 14:03, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Links to the purported "numerous articles" have not been provided. Sandstein 13:37, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
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Sources fail to establish notability, topic fails WP:NCORP requirements HighKing ++ 19:46, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep very notable financial holding company, there have been numerous articles in the FT + WSJ, etc about this company. Devoke water 20:25, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Really? Post links to those references please.
HighKing
++
16:42, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- During the 80’s Pargesa was a very high flying financial conglomerate under the control of two very high profile businessmen Albert Frère + Paul Desmarais, it owned Groupe Bruxelles Lambert + effectively controlled Drexel Burnham Lambert. It had a very high profile, there were numerous articles in the financial press on a daily, weekly, monthly basis. Since these two businessmen have retired the company now has a low profile + is rarely mentioned in the financial press. -- Devoke water 10:59, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- It seems that the company did have a bigger profile in the 1980's, but even if references to this coverage could be found it seems that it would still not pass WP:NCORP, as the reporting of normal business transactions is almost always considered trivial coverage. SailingInABathTub ( talk) 14:17, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Really? Post links to those references please.
HighKing
++
16:42, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, only trivial coverage found, fails WP:NCORP. SailingInABathTub ( talk) 09:52, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Fails NCORP. SK2242 ( talk) 14:03, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
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