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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Curbon7 ( talk) 05:03, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Paradoxical intention
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Already covered in Logotherapy article. Much of the content not covered in the Logotherapy article has been challenged or is unreferenced. rsjaffe talk 21:35, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 23:44, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep Logotherapy is psychotherapy based on finding a meaning for life. Paradoxical intention is a specific cognitive technique which is not associated with such search for meaning and so might be used by any school. So they are not the same thing and are best covered separately. See Paradoxical Intention Therapy for an example of a source which barely mentions logotherapy. There are many more. Andrew🐉( talk) 08:02, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, already covered in parent article. - Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 11:17, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- No it isn't. The logotherapy article says little about it and refers readers to the page in question to find out more. Andrew🐉( talk) 12:23, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Yes it is. The extra in this article isn't sourced. - Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 13:43, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Editors should consider how best to help readers understand it. Sometimes, understanding is best achieved by presenting the material on a dedicated standalone page and per WP:HEY. RV ( talk) 03:17, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 12:15, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
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- Further evidence The Encyclopedia of Psychotherapy has an entry for the topic which states that "It is an approach employed in a variety of schools of psychotherapy, especially family and Gestalt therapy..." and so this confirms that it is not exclusive to logotherapy. And, of course, that the topic is both notable and encyclopedic. Andrew🐉( talk) 13:54, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- Very weak keep - there's not a lot of meat to this and it could very well be covered at logotherapy with no loss of content, but I guess it just slips in as sufficient for a standalone. Both will work. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 14:36, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per Andrew Davidson and the sources cited above. Passes WP:SIGCOV and is its own unique topic separate from logotherapy. 4meter4 ( talk) 23:59, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Curbon7 ( talk) 05:03, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Paradoxical intention
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Already covered in Logotherapy article. Much of the content not covered in the Logotherapy article has been challenged or is unreferenced. rsjaffe talk 21:35, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Psychology-related deletion discussions. rsjaffe talk 21:35, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 23:44, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 23:44, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Logotherapy is psychotherapy based on finding a meaning for life. Paradoxical intention is a specific cognitive technique which is not associated with such search for meaning and so might be used by any school. So they are not the same thing and are best covered separately. See Paradoxical Intention Therapy for an example of a source which barely mentions logotherapy. There are many more. Andrew🐉( talk) 08:02, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, already covered in parent article. - Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 11:17, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- No it isn't. The logotherapy article says little about it and refers readers to the page in question to find out more. Andrew🐉( talk) 12:23, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Yes it is. The extra in this article isn't sourced. - Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 13:43, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Editors should consider how best to help readers understand it. Sometimes, understanding is best achieved by presenting the material on a dedicated standalone page and per WP:HEY. RV ( talk) 03:17, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 12:15, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 12:15, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- Further evidence The Encyclopedia of Psychotherapy has an entry for the topic which states that "It is an approach employed in a variety of schools of psychotherapy, especially family and Gestalt therapy..." and so this confirms that it is not exclusive to logotherapy. And, of course, that the topic is both notable and encyclopedic. Andrew🐉( talk) 13:54, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- Very weak keep - there's not a lot of meat to this and it could very well be covered at logotherapy with no loss of content, but I guess it just slips in as sufficient for a standalone. Both will work. -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 14:36, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per Andrew Davidson and the sources cited above. Passes WP:SIGCOV and is its own unique topic separate from logotherapy. 4meter4 ( talk) 23:59, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
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