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Another post office with nothing there, this time in a triangular fields by a stream. Longer lived than most we've looked at, but it still didn't make it into the 20th century. Searching is surprisingly bad, but I couldn't find anything I could tie to this spot. Mangoe ( talk) 03:11, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Kansas. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:39, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I can't find any references to this as anything more than a post office. Some sources say the post office moved across the river to
Chetolah in 1888 but retained the Palatine name (e.g. here
[1]), so maybe it should get a sentence or two there. Would explain the longevity.
Jbt89 (
talk)
06:13, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Added a sentence on the Palatine post office to the Lookout Township, Ellis County, Kansas article. This article is now completely redundant with that one except for the coordinates. Jbt89 ( talk) 22:21, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- The contemporary Kansas State Board of Agriculture reports say outright that this is a post office in Smoky Hill Township.
I've already fixed up Ellis County, Kansas#Communities with what can actually be supported from Blackmar's Cyclopedia and the Board of Agriculture reports as genuine towns, hamlets, and post offices. Only Rome in the list of ghost towns there has actual support from any of these sources for being a ghost town, and now has one of the sources that does. All other purported ghost towns in that article are not supported from them, in particular not from the Cyclopedia, which goes down to detail at the hamlet level.
Connelley's 1928 History of Kansas does not have this.
Gannett's 1898 gazetteer says "post village", but given the lack of support from anywhere else for the "village" part, I'm inclined to think that this is yet another of Gannett's errors.
And the GHIS record that gave us this? "(historical)" in the name and "locale" (not "ppl") as the original feature class.
This is yet more padded with boilerplate Kansas crap that is inventing a ghost town and was never supported in that in the first place by its original supposed unreliable source.
References
- Comment The wikipedia library service issue is keeping me out of newspapers.com still. I'll see what I can find in the other database before I head to the airport. Gone till friday. James.folsom ( talk) 15:54, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, per the extensive searches described above.
- JoelleJay ( talk) 04:08, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I think I finally have a handle on this. I found one article that revealed it was named by a judge, for his birth township. Another notice in the paper indicated that a post office was being discontinued, and mail would no longer go any further than Palatine. The newspaper is asking in this notice for people let them know where to send their paper. I don't know why I never made this connection before. People would go to the post office to get their mail, and if people needed to send them mail, they needed know which post office. So they essentially they need to say they are from palatine, so people would know where to send correspondence. It doesn't denote where they live, but where they get their mail. James.folsom ( talk) 23:44, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Palatine, Kansas ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Another post office with nothing there, this time in a triangular fields by a stream. Longer lived than most we've looked at, but it still didn't make it into the 20th century. Searching is surprisingly bad, but I couldn't find anything I could tie to this spot. Mangoe ( talk) 03:11, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Kansas. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:39, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I can't find any references to this as anything more than a post office. Some sources say the post office moved across the river to
Chetolah in 1888 but retained the Palatine name (e.g. here
[1]), so maybe it should get a sentence or two there. Would explain the longevity.
Jbt89 (
talk)
06:13, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Added a sentence on the Palatine post office to the Lookout Township, Ellis County, Kansas article. This article is now completely redundant with that one except for the coordinates. Jbt89 ( talk) 22:21, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- The contemporary Kansas State Board of Agriculture reports say outright that this is a post office in Smoky Hill Township.
I've already fixed up Ellis County, Kansas#Communities with what can actually be supported from Blackmar's Cyclopedia and the Board of Agriculture reports as genuine towns, hamlets, and post offices. Only Rome in the list of ghost towns there has actual support from any of these sources for being a ghost town, and now has one of the sources that does. All other purported ghost towns in that article are not supported from them, in particular not from the Cyclopedia, which goes down to detail at the hamlet level.
Connelley's 1928 History of Kansas does not have this.
Gannett's 1898 gazetteer says "post village", but given the lack of support from anywhere else for the "village" part, I'm inclined to think that this is yet another of Gannett's errors.
And the GHIS record that gave us this? "(historical)" in the name and "locale" (not "ppl") as the original feature class.
This is yet more padded with boilerplate Kansas crap that is inventing a ghost town and was never supported in that in the first place by its original supposed unreliable source.
References
- Comment The wikipedia library service issue is keeping me out of newspapers.com still. I'll see what I can find in the other database before I head to the airport. Gone till friday. James.folsom ( talk) 15:54, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, per the extensive searches described above.
- JoelleJay ( talk) 04:08, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I think I finally have a handle on this. I found one article that revealed it was named by a judge, for his birth township. Another notice in the paper indicated that a post office was being discontinued, and mail would no longer go any further than Palatine. The newspaper is asking in this notice for people let them know where to send their paper. I don't know why I never made this connection before. People would go to the post office to get their mail, and if people needed to send them mail, they needed know which post office. So they essentially they need to say they are from palatine, so people would know where to send correspondence. It doesn't denote where they live, but where they get their mail. James.folsom ( talk) 23:44, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
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