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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:24, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
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Not-notable street performer who doesn't meet
WP:ENTERTAINER or
WP:GNG. Since tagging this article for notability last year I found have become aware of the claimed "national news" coverage that the subject's entire claim to notability seemed to be based upon. It is, effectively,
this single photocall image in the Irish Times. Which, frankly, seems to amount to the type of light-news "photocall" that adorns Irish papers everyday. Even, as the case was here, if the subject of a PR-photo was also afforded a short write up in the
Irish Times or
Irish Independent, this doesn't meet the project's notability criteria. Even
WP:BLP1E seems some stretch away. A further search of the two Irish
newspapers of record (same Irish Times and Irish Independent) returns just
three
results (two of which cover this one appearance/BLP1E/photocall). In any event, while I could go on, a broader search for further news, academic or related coverage returns nothing material. I do not see how subject meets our
WP:GNG or
WP:ENTERTAINER guidelines (either the guidelines we have now, or those we had when this article was created in 2005).
Guliolopez (
talk)
21:07, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez ( talk) 21:18, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Magic-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez ( talk) 21:19, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This article I've cleaned up in the past, leaving only the pertinent info and the one reliable (?) source that had been added... as you say not multiple and reliable enough to show notablity. Previously there were other source links, which became dead and only referred to the man's own web site. In essence, the article amounts to only: Owen Lean is a magician and street magic entertainer. In 2004 he was selected to perform at the Singapore River Buskers Festival. Where he is mentioned elsewhere on the web it looks like sources, seemingly social media and corporate promo, just copy-pasted his own fluff and pics. Just doesn't cut it I think. Acabashi ( talk) 14:24, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable street performer. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:19, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Fails GNG. Spleodrach ( talk) 07:05, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:24, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
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Not-notable street performer who doesn't meet
WP:ENTERTAINER or
WP:GNG. Since tagging this article for notability last year I found have become aware of the claimed "national news" coverage that the subject's entire claim to notability seemed to be based upon. It is, effectively,
this single photocall image in the Irish Times. Which, frankly, seems to amount to the type of light-news "photocall" that adorns Irish papers everyday. Even, as the case was here, if the subject of a PR-photo was also afforded a short write up in the
Irish Times or
Irish Independent, this doesn't meet the project's notability criteria. Even
WP:BLP1E seems some stretch away. A further search of the two Irish
newspapers of record (same Irish Times and Irish Independent) returns just
three
results (two of which cover this one appearance/BLP1E/photocall). In any event, while I could go on, a broader search for further news, academic or related coverage returns nothing material. I do not see how subject meets our
WP:GNG or
WP:ENTERTAINER guidelines (either the guidelines we have now, or those we had when this article was created in 2005).
Guliolopez (
talk)
21:07, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez ( talk) 21:18, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Magic-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez ( talk) 21:19, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This article I've cleaned up in the past, leaving only the pertinent info and the one reliable (?) source that had been added... as you say not multiple and reliable enough to show notablity. Previously there were other source links, which became dead and only referred to the man's own web site. In essence, the article amounts to only: Owen Lean is a magician and street magic entertainer. In 2004 he was selected to perform at the Singapore River Buskers Festival. Where he is mentioned elsewhere on the web it looks like sources, seemingly social media and corporate promo, just copy-pasted his own fluff and pics. Just doesn't cut it I think. Acabashi ( talk) 14:24, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable street performer. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:19, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Fails GNG. Spleodrach ( talk) 07:05, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.