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The result was delete. WP:V is mandatory. Nobody here has proposed an actual reliable source for the existence of this place under any of the proposed names. Sandstein 12:22, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
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Another "unverified" geonames place that locates, imprecisely, to a large blank spot on the ground. It shows up as a dot on a couple of relief agency maps but I found no real text mentions, and there's every likelihood that the data on those maps derives from the same source as geonames: the only features I could correlate besides the largest cities where some of the roads. Mangoe ( talk) 13:15, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
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- Rename to Budbud. 92.10.229.24 ( talk) 20:11, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- Why? Is it better known as such, in a reliable source? ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 08:13, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. The entry at GEOnet Names Server, which is fairly reliable, calls it an unverified name for a populated place. By their standards, that means it is "a name from a source whose official status can not be verified by the BGN" (U.S. Board on Geographic Names). If even they are calling it unverifiable, how can it possibly pass WP:V? ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 08:13, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- Rename Under the current title, it is unverifiable, but "Or Ghielleis" seems to turn up some relevant results; see [1], for instance. That said, I don't know much about geography related articles. @ Mangoe and Premeditated Chaos: Thoughts? Vanamonde ( talk) 12:13, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- Geoview.info doesn't look like a reliable source to me. Who created it? Is it governmental? Which one? Where does it get its info from? Doesn't have any information or about page that I can see, and the contact page at the bottom of the homepage is a 404. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 08:23, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisted to allow for replies to Vanamonde's queries.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:35, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Relisted to allow for replies to Vanamonde's queries.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:35, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- Rename to Budbud as per the IP editor (who has commented in many of these Somali geo-stub article deletions) and as per Somali wikipedia (coordinates are very similar, but the coordinates on the current page are also very, very imprecise): [2] SportingFlyer talk 17:50, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- Comment for those of you who may be unconvinced by such a differing rename, note that many place names apparently do not have local Somali names in international databases.
SportingFlyer
talk
17:51, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- I'm reasonably good with creating an article on
Budbud but I don't see evidence that this is an alternate name for the town. The corrdinates are significantly different, if nothing else.
Mangoe (
talk)
23:01, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- They're about ten miles apart. There's literally nothing around Or Ghielleis on a map - the coordinates are within <2mi accuracy, but there's barely even a road. There's also nothing that looks like Or Ghielleis on the Somali template linked above. The clear and best thing to do here is either delete this and create Budbud, which clearly exists and has possible sources in an easy search, or move this to Budbud. I don't really care which, but if we move it, we get to preserve the content. SportingFlyer talk 05:46, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
- I'm reasonably good with creating an article on
Budbud but I don't see evidence that this is an alternate name for the town. The corrdinates are significantly different, if nothing else.
Mangoe (
talk)
23:01, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- Make it Budbud. 92.10.229.24 is generally knowledgeable about the correct naming for these places, and I don't think Or Ghielleis is a verifiable article title. Prince of Thieves ( talk) 12:13, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
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The result was delete. WP:V is mandatory. Nobody here has proposed an actual reliable source for the existence of this place under any of the proposed names. Sandstein 12:22, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
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Another "unverified" geonames place that locates, imprecisely, to a large blank spot on the ground. It shows up as a dot on a couple of relief agency maps but I found no real text mentions, and there's every likelihood that the data on those maps derives from the same source as geonames: the only features I could correlate besides the largest cities where some of the roads. Mangoe ( talk) 13:15, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 13:22, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Somalia-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 13:22, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Rename to Budbud. 92.10.229.24 ( talk) 20:11, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- Why? Is it better known as such, in a reliable source? ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 08:13, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. The entry at GEOnet Names Server, which is fairly reliable, calls it an unverified name for a populated place. By their standards, that means it is "a name from a source whose official status can not be verified by the BGN" (U.S. Board on Geographic Names). If even they are calling it unverifiable, how can it possibly pass WP:V? ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 08:13, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- Rename Under the current title, it is unverifiable, but "Or Ghielleis" seems to turn up some relevant results; see [1], for instance. That said, I don't know much about geography related articles. @ Mangoe and Premeditated Chaos: Thoughts? Vanamonde ( talk) 12:13, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- Geoview.info doesn't look like a reliable source to me. Who created it? Is it governmental? Which one? Where does it get its info from? Doesn't have any information or about page that I can see, and the contact page at the bottom of the homepage is a 404. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 08:23, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisted to allow for replies to Vanamonde's queries.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:35, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Relisted to allow for replies to Vanamonde's queries.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:35, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- Rename to Budbud as per the IP editor (who has commented in many of these Somali geo-stub article deletions) and as per Somali wikipedia (coordinates are very similar, but the coordinates on the current page are also very, very imprecise): [2] SportingFlyer talk 17:50, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- Comment for those of you who may be unconvinced by such a differing rename, note that many place names apparently do not have local Somali names in international databases.
SportingFlyer
talk
17:51, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- I'm reasonably good with creating an article on
Budbud but I don't see evidence that this is an alternate name for the town. The corrdinates are significantly different, if nothing else.
Mangoe (
talk)
23:01, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- They're about ten miles apart. There's literally nothing around Or Ghielleis on a map - the coordinates are within <2mi accuracy, but there's barely even a road. There's also nothing that looks like Or Ghielleis on the Somali template linked above. The clear and best thing to do here is either delete this and create Budbud, which clearly exists and has possible sources in an easy search, or move this to Budbud. I don't really care which, but if we move it, we get to preserve the content. SportingFlyer talk 05:46, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
- I'm reasonably good with creating an article on
Budbud but I don't see evidence that this is an alternate name for the town. The corrdinates are significantly different, if nothing else.
Mangoe (
talk)
23:01, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- Make it Budbud. 92.10.229.24 is generally knowledgeable about the correct naming for these places, and I don't think Or Ghielleis is a verifiable article title. Prince of Thieves ( talk) 12:13, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
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