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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:17, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Omnibussimulator
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No indication of notability per WP:GNG or WP:NVG. Fewer than 100 results from a Google search, no significant discussion or reviews from well-known reliable sources. ... discospinster talk 14:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
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- A) Please don't cite an essay for notability of video games. B) See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/OMSI 2. -- Izno ( talk) 14:42, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- If you search it as "omsi the bus simulator", you get more than a million results. "Omnibussimulator" is used for article title uniqueness as it is the name used in the authors' market. Official English name is "The Bus Simulator", but there are so many bus simulators out there. This article was mostly translated from German Wikipedia. Erkin Alp Güney 15:06, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete - agree with nom MaskedSinger ( talk) 17:13, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
KEEP: Maybe fix the name, but the video game existed and was notable. There's nothing promoting anyone here, there's no reason to delete it. ThatLawStudent ( talk) 20:24, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- — ThatLawStudent ( talk · contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Cheerio042 ( talk · contribs).
- Delete I don't see notability here. There is an article about the game on Rock, Paper, Shotgun [1], but nothing much else. I am mostly getting results for Oregon Museum of Science and Industry. Also, I would advise ThatLawStudent to read WP:GNG as to what has to be met which this subject fails (lack of significant coverage in multiple reliable sources). Plus not being promotional is not the reason to keep it as well. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 20:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
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Jovanmilic97 Yes I'm aware of the guidelines, but you're not ever going to find all the sources and in this case I don't even speak german. So I mean look at it, all these add ons from different companies, you gotta give them the benefit of the doubt that it was notable. So next I look to see if anyone is benefiting, ya know is it promotional, are the references padding someones SEO, all that. This is a videogame from 2011, so no one is benefitting. So I'd say keeping it would benefit this work as it's a valid piece of info that's probably notable.
ThatLawStudent (
talk)
20:53, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Problem is that per WP:NRV "No subject is automatically or inherently notable merely because it exists: the evidence must show the topic has gained significant independent coverage or recognition". Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 20:59, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
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Jovanmilic97 Yes I'm aware of the guidelines, but you're not ever going to find all the sources and in this case I don't even speak german. So I mean look at it, all these add ons from different companies, you gotta give them the benefit of the doubt that it was notable. So next I look to see if anyone is benefiting, ya know is it promotional, are the references padding someones SEO, all that. This is a videogame from 2011, so no one is benefitting. So I'd say keeping it would benefit this work as it's a valid piece of info that's probably notable.
ThatLawStudent (
talk)
20:53, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Weak delete as a non-notable video game failing
WP:GNG with no multiple reliable independent in-depth sources, such as
WP:VG/RS. German Wiki has a review:
[2]; 4players.de looks like a magazine, so I would say it's likely reliable.
There is a review from multiplayer.it [3], which looks good, but VG/RS never established reliability of the source one way or another.According to GR, there is a PC Gamer UK review, which I can't seem to locate in the Nov 2011 issue. I want to say more sources exist, but are not cited yet. In any case, the article is not based on these anyway, so it would be a full rewrite anyway, so deleting is not an issue. — HELLKNOWZ ▎ TALK 09:22, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Hellknowz, the Multiplayer.it is about OMSI 2, not OMSI 1, just as a notice. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 13:07, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Whoopsie. Stricken. — HELLKNOWZ ▎ TALK 16:22, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Shadow keep Existence of so many addons, in addition to those reviews (addons also have reviews, most done in feature-length videos, some independent, some by casual players) do make a game notable. It does not make the addons themselves, though. Erkin Alp Güney 16:26, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:17, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Omnibussimulator
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No indication of notability per WP:GNG or WP:NVG. Fewer than 100 results from a Google search, no significant discussion or reviews from well-known reliable sources. ... discospinster talk 14:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. ... discospinster talk 14:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- A) Please don't cite an essay for notability of video games. B) See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/OMSI 2. -- Izno ( talk) 14:42, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- If you search it as "omsi the bus simulator", you get more than a million results. "Omnibussimulator" is used for article title uniqueness as it is the name used in the authors' market. Official English name is "The Bus Simulator", but there are so many bus simulators out there. This article was mostly translated from German Wikipedia. Erkin Alp Güney 15:06, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 15:50, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - agree with nom MaskedSinger ( talk) 17:13, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
KEEP: Maybe fix the name, but the video game existed and was notable. There's nothing promoting anyone here, there's no reason to delete it. ThatLawStudent ( talk) 20:24, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- — ThatLawStudent ( talk · contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Cheerio042 ( talk · contribs).
- Delete I don't see notability here. There is an article about the game on Rock, Paper, Shotgun [1], but nothing much else. I am mostly getting results for Oregon Museum of Science and Industry. Also, I would advise ThatLawStudent to read WP:GNG as to what has to be met which this subject fails (lack of significant coverage in multiple reliable sources). Plus not being promotional is not the reason to keep it as well. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 20:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
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Jovanmilic97 Yes I'm aware of the guidelines, but you're not ever going to find all the sources and in this case I don't even speak german. So I mean look at it, all these add ons from different companies, you gotta give them the benefit of the doubt that it was notable. So next I look to see if anyone is benefiting, ya know is it promotional, are the references padding someones SEO, all that. This is a videogame from 2011, so no one is benefitting. So I'd say keeping it would benefit this work as it's a valid piece of info that's probably notable.
ThatLawStudent (
talk)
20:53, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Problem is that per WP:NRV "No subject is automatically or inherently notable merely because it exists: the evidence must show the topic has gained significant independent coverage or recognition". Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 20:59, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
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Jovanmilic97 Yes I'm aware of the guidelines, but you're not ever going to find all the sources and in this case I don't even speak german. So I mean look at it, all these add ons from different companies, you gotta give them the benefit of the doubt that it was notable. So next I look to see if anyone is benefiting, ya know is it promotional, are the references padding someones SEO, all that. This is a videogame from 2011, so no one is benefitting. So I'd say keeping it would benefit this work as it's a valid piece of info that's probably notable.
ThatLawStudent (
talk)
20:53, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Weak delete as a non-notable video game failing
WP:GNG with no multiple reliable independent in-depth sources, such as
WP:VG/RS. German Wiki has a review:
[2]; 4players.de looks like a magazine, so I would say it's likely reliable.
There is a review from multiplayer.it [3], which looks good, but VG/RS never established reliability of the source one way or another.According to GR, there is a PC Gamer UK review, which I can't seem to locate in the Nov 2011 issue. I want to say more sources exist, but are not cited yet. In any case, the article is not based on these anyway, so it would be a full rewrite anyway, so deleting is not an issue. — HELLKNOWZ ▎ TALK 09:22, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Hellknowz, the Multiplayer.it is about OMSI 2, not OMSI 1, just as a notice. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 13:07, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Whoopsie. Stricken. — HELLKNOWZ ▎ TALK 16:22, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Shadow keep Existence of so many addons, in addition to those reviews (addons also have reviews, most done in feature-length videos, some independent, some by casual players) do make a game notable. It does not make the addons themselves, though. Erkin Alp Güney 16:26, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
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