The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The result was keep in one form or another. Even if there is no consensus that all those neighborhoods are notable enough for stand-alone articles, deletion rather than merging is not a potential policy-based outcome (and thus there is no consensus here to delete). Whether this should be merged can and should be discussed at the talk page and/or
WP:RM. SoWhy07:33, 6 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Article about a city neighborhood, which is not a well-established community with a properly sourced or notable history. Per GEOLAND, neighborhoods must meet GNG for a separate article. Article has four sources, all of which are primary (City of Calgary). The article even states the population was ZERO in 2012. Clearly fails GNG.
MB00:52, 28 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Merge to
List of neighbourhoods in Calgary, as per
WP:ATD-M. Source coverage is mostly local and some mentions in Google books exist, but not finding source coverage to qualify a standalone article. There has been development there (e.g.
[1],
[2],
[3]), so it's likely populated now, or will be. A merge will improve the Calgary article, which presently has no mention of this neighborhood. North America100001:12, 28 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep based on longstanding consensus that all residential neighbourhoods in Calgary and Edmonton are notable enough for articles. This article was created in good faith based on the precedent that all others had articles. Although a newer neighbourhood, it is no less important than an older established neighbourhood that only has the benefit of more time passed to accrue a more fulsome history. It will accumulate its history over time. Surely some non-City of Calgary sources can be found. If this is deleted on these grounds, surely dozens and dozens of Calgary's other ~200 residential neighbourhoods are eligible to suffer the same fate as well. I'd much rather see a single deletion discussion of a large volume of these similar articles rather than picking them off one-by-one, such as is currently and suddenly the case with this,
Legacy, Calgary and
Sage Hill, Calgary despite years of Calgary residential neighbourhood article stability. Also, yes, it is now most certainly a
populated neighbourhood.
Hwy43 (
talk)
05:21, 28 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep As mentioned above, consensus is that all Calgary neighborhoods are notable. If people disagree, picking them off one by one is not a solution. And, as
Hwy43 mentioned, it's clearly a populated neighborhood, I don't know what nominator is talking about.
Smartyllama (
talk)
14:16, 28 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment The consensus is documented in
WP:GEOLAND and it does not contain any special exemption for Calgary neighborhoods making them de facto notable.
MB15:10, 28 June 2017 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep in one form or another. Even if there is no consensus that all those neighborhoods are notable enough for stand-alone articles, deletion rather than merging is not a potential policy-based outcome (and thus there is no consensus here to delete). Whether this should be merged can and should be discussed at the talk page and/or
WP:RM. SoWhy07:33, 6 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Article about a city neighborhood, which is not a well-established community with a properly sourced or notable history. Per GEOLAND, neighborhoods must meet GNG for a separate article. Article has four sources, all of which are primary (City of Calgary). The article even states the population was ZERO in 2012. Clearly fails GNG.
MB00:52, 28 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Merge to
List of neighbourhoods in Calgary, as per
WP:ATD-M. Source coverage is mostly local and some mentions in Google books exist, but not finding source coverage to qualify a standalone article. There has been development there (e.g.
[1],
[2],
[3]), so it's likely populated now, or will be. A merge will improve the Calgary article, which presently has no mention of this neighborhood. North America100001:12, 28 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep based on longstanding consensus that all residential neighbourhoods in Calgary and Edmonton are notable enough for articles. This article was created in good faith based on the precedent that all others had articles. Although a newer neighbourhood, it is no less important than an older established neighbourhood that only has the benefit of more time passed to accrue a more fulsome history. It will accumulate its history over time. Surely some non-City of Calgary sources can be found. If this is deleted on these grounds, surely dozens and dozens of Calgary's other ~200 residential neighbourhoods are eligible to suffer the same fate as well. I'd much rather see a single deletion discussion of a large volume of these similar articles rather than picking them off one-by-one, such as is currently and suddenly the case with this,
Legacy, Calgary and
Sage Hill, Calgary despite years of Calgary residential neighbourhood article stability. Also, yes, it is now most certainly a
populated neighbourhood.
Hwy43 (
talk)
05:21, 28 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep As mentioned above, consensus is that all Calgary neighborhoods are notable. If people disagree, picking them off one by one is not a solution. And, as
Hwy43 mentioned, it's clearly a populated neighborhood, I don't know what nominator is talking about.
Smartyllama (
talk)
14:16, 28 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment The consensus is documented in
WP:GEOLAND and it does not contain any special exemption for Calgary neighborhoods making them de facto notable.
MB15:10, 28 June 2017 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
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