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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) MrScorch6200 ( talk | ctrb) 00:19, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
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Pure list of programs that are the same as the original channel. Finealt ( talk) 22:11, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep Rationale doesn't fit with content of article as shows aren't even mentioned, and article just describes the various networks it's carried on in Europe. However, once and for all, please kill the flags per WP:MOSFLAGS at the very least. Nate • ( chatter) 04:33, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Meets WP:L as suitable for navigation to various articles on different nations' Nickelodeon. There are references to news sources, and many more stories about Nickelodeon's European channels can be found in European and American media/entertainment publications. Rationale is invalid, as stated, so I suggest the nominator withdraws and reconsiders. -- Colapeninsula ( talk) 11:10, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Europe-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 14:46, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep Finealt, I'm not sure what exactly you think you're doing but as far as I can see from your edit history you are systematically removing substantial amounts of (largely correct and uncontested) content from articles, and issuing warnings to anyone who reinstates that information. You're removing information from articles which is relevant to one particular territory, then citing the lack of remaining information as reason to delete or merge the articles. You're wrongly making the blanket claim that all these international channels show the same programmes as the US parent (that is not true) and in at least one case you've removed an article entirely ( Nickelodeon Switzerland) based on your own entirely wild claim that there is no such channel and that viewers in that country watch the French and German channels instead - which is nonsense. You wiped Nick Jr. (UK and Ireland) and replaced it with a redirect to the US Nick Jr channel. You've removed a list of presenters from Nickelodeon (UK & Ireland) which is wholly specific to that territory, and again presumably on the basis of this, you'll then claim that the remaining article is insufficiently different from the US parent that it too should be deleted. Also, WP:NOTVGUIDE which you cite as a reason for removing information, does not actually prohibit plain lists of television programmes. In addition you have removed almost every international channel from Nickelodeon (international), leaving this article as one of the handful left, while also moving more information out of country-specific articles into this one, and are now proposing to delete THIS article as well! You're clearly not an expert, and your impressions are so mistaken, and being used to justify so much content and article deletions, that I have grave concerns about the effect you're having on the articles you're editing. Is it possible that you could check your impressions before making rash deletions, and perhaps discuss them with other members of the WIkipedia community first? With the best attempt in the world to Assume Good Faith, it's hard to see your edits as achieving anything other than significant damage which will take editors considerable time to recover from and fix. Bonusballs ( talk) 23:48, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep As per above. Keenan202 ( talk) 19:40, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Comment Finealt, I highly advise you to read WP:MOSFLAGS. I have reverted your last article edit not only because you re-added the flags (which add nothing but decoration), but removed any links to the European networks itself in an attempt to null this article's purpose. That kind of large change must absolutely be discussed on the talk page before ever being done. Nate • ( chatter) 23:34, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) MrScorch6200 ( talk | ctrb) 00:19, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
- Nickelodeon (Europe) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Pure list of programs that are the same as the original channel. Finealt ( talk) 22:11, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2014 February 10. — cyberbot I NotifyOnline 22:39, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Rationale doesn't fit with content of article as shows aren't even mentioned, and article just describes the various networks it's carried on in Europe. However, once and for all, please kill the flags per WP:MOSFLAGS at the very least. Nate • ( chatter) 04:33, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Meets WP:L as suitable for navigation to various articles on different nations' Nickelodeon. There are references to news sources, and many more stories about Nickelodeon's European channels can be found in European and American media/entertainment publications. Rationale is invalid, as stated, so I suggest the nominator withdraws and reconsiders. -- Colapeninsula ( talk) 11:10, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Europe-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 14:46, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 14:46, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Finealt, I'm not sure what exactly you think you're doing but as far as I can see from your edit history you are systematically removing substantial amounts of (largely correct and uncontested) content from articles, and issuing warnings to anyone who reinstates that information. You're removing information from articles which is relevant to one particular territory, then citing the lack of remaining information as reason to delete or merge the articles. You're wrongly making the blanket claim that all these international channels show the same programmes as the US parent (that is not true) and in at least one case you've removed an article entirely ( Nickelodeon Switzerland) based on your own entirely wild claim that there is no such channel and that viewers in that country watch the French and German channels instead - which is nonsense. You wiped Nick Jr. (UK and Ireland) and replaced it with a redirect to the US Nick Jr channel. You've removed a list of presenters from Nickelodeon (UK & Ireland) which is wholly specific to that territory, and again presumably on the basis of this, you'll then claim that the remaining article is insufficiently different from the US parent that it too should be deleted. Also, WP:NOTVGUIDE which you cite as a reason for removing information, does not actually prohibit plain lists of television programmes. In addition you have removed almost every international channel from Nickelodeon (international), leaving this article as one of the handful left, while also moving more information out of country-specific articles into this one, and are now proposing to delete THIS article as well! You're clearly not an expert, and your impressions are so mistaken, and being used to justify so much content and article deletions, that I have grave concerns about the effect you're having on the articles you're editing. Is it possible that you could check your impressions before making rash deletions, and perhaps discuss them with other members of the WIkipedia community first? With the best attempt in the world to Assume Good Faith, it's hard to see your edits as achieving anything other than significant damage which will take editors considerable time to recover from and fix. Bonusballs ( talk) 23:48, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep As per above. Keenan202 ( talk) 19:40, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Comment Finealt, I highly advise you to read WP:MOSFLAGS. I have reverted your last article edit not only because you re-added the flags (which add nothing but decoration), but removed any links to the European networks itself in an attempt to null this article's purpose. That kind of large change must absolutely be discussed on the talk page before ever being done. Nate • ( chatter) 23:34, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
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