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The result was Userfy to User:SOTIRIS CRETE/Neogeopolitics.. Daniel ( talk) 12:05, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
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Non-notable neologism. The one reference in the article actually using the term seems to have been written by the article's creator. A handful of hits on the word on Google and Scholar, but with each of them trying to coin it themselves with their own definition. Kolbasz ( talk) 09:26, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NEO, given source is a journalist saying they will (to quote Google Translate) "try to give the definition" of their own invented term. -- McGeddon ( talk) 10:12, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- response to user: McGeddon
- 1. Not a journalist. SOTIRIS CRETE ( talk) 10:52, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- 2. Need to decide whether you consider it for deletion as a "new invented term" or you consider it as already been existed as Kolbasz said. — Preceding
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10:45, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Whoever he is, Sotiris N. Kamenopoulou says in his article that (and forgive the Google translation): "In this passage of my article first introduced a new concept: the concept of "neo-geopolitical". I will try to give the definition of this new concept: the "neo-geopolitical" is...", suggesting that this is his own word. This is not a secondary source as required by WP:NEO. -- McGeddon ( talk) 11:01, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Would you recommend the terms of "neoliberalism" or "neomarxism" or "meta-geopolitics" for deletion? Because, eventually, someone have invented them, and someone have provided their definition...somtmnes there cpuld many different defintions. So, what? Any body is accepted to add/update defintions.
SOTIRIS CRETE (
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11:11, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Terms like "neoliberalism" can be sourced to what "reliable secondary sources, such as books and papers, say about the term or concept", as WP:NEO requires. It seems that neogeopolitics cannot be sourced in this way (at least yet), so does not currently merit an article. -- McGeddon ( talk) 11:30, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Would you recommend the terms of "neoliberalism" or "neomarxism" or "meta-geopolitics" for deletion? Because, eventually, someone have invented them, and someone have provided their definition...somtmnes there cpuld many different defintions. So, what? Any body is accepted to add/update defintions.
SOTIRIS CRETE (
talk)
11:11, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Resposne to user Kolbasz: SOTIRIS CRETE ( talk) 10:57, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- 1. Please provide the "handful of hits" with definitions. And in any case, if someone else can provide an additional definition, this would be very much accepted. SOTIRIS CRETE ( talk) 10:57, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- 2. You would recommend deleting the terms of "neoliberalism" or "neomarxism" or "metageopoltics" when they appeared for first time? SOTIRIS CRETE ( talk) 10:57, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Appreciated the good comments/critic.
- Speedy Userfy - this article is clearly incomplete (lede asks for more help) and creator needs assistance learning referencing. A search reveals this term used by multiple people in politcal science. [1], [2], [3]. It was used as far back as 1967 by Canadian James George Eayrs ( [4] snippet view, but says... "Neo-geopolitics was made in U.S.A., more exactly, made in Princeton, with some assistance from the University of Pennsylvania. And for Americans, neo-geopolitics was a comforting doctrine...") This term was not invented by article creator, who should be given time to work on the article before submitting it for approval once sufficient sources are there. —Мандичка YO 😜 13:33, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JAaron95 ( Talk) 16:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JAaron95 ( Talk) 16:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
- Speedy Userfy The term is out there being used. More research is needed to determine of it has a stable enough meaning to be "notable" for a WP article. Then a better article can be prepared. Borock ( talk) 18:31, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
- Delete or Userfy. An unreferenced statement like
"Neo-Geo" is the "geopolitics of smartphones"
seems like OR to me. Liz Read! Talk! 21:59, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
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The result was Userfy to User:SOTIRIS CRETE/Neogeopolitics.. Daniel ( talk) 12:05, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- Neogeopolitics ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Non-notable neologism. The one reference in the article actually using the term seems to have been written by the article's creator. A handful of hits on the word on Google and Scholar, but with each of them trying to coin it themselves with their own definition. Kolbasz ( talk) 09:26, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NEO, given source is a journalist saying they will (to quote Google Translate) "try to give the definition" of their own invented term. -- McGeddon ( talk) 10:12, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- response to user: McGeddon
- 1. Not a journalist. SOTIRIS CRETE ( talk) 10:52, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- 2. Need to decide whether you consider it for deletion as a "new invented term" or you consider it as already been existed as Kolbasz said. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
SOTIRIS CRETE (
talk •
contribs)
10:45, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Whoever he is, Sotiris N. Kamenopoulou says in his article that (and forgive the Google translation): "In this passage of my article first introduced a new concept: the concept of "neo-geopolitical". I will try to give the definition of this new concept: the "neo-geopolitical" is...", suggesting that this is his own word. This is not a secondary source as required by WP:NEO. -- McGeddon ( talk) 11:01, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Would you recommend the terms of "neoliberalism" or "neomarxism" or "meta-geopolitics" for deletion? Because, eventually, someone have invented them, and someone have provided their definition...somtmnes there cpuld many different defintions. So, what? Any body is accepted to add/update defintions.
SOTIRIS CRETE (
talk)
11:11, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Terms like "neoliberalism" can be sourced to what "reliable secondary sources, such as books and papers, say about the term or concept", as WP:NEO requires. It seems that neogeopolitics cannot be sourced in this way (at least yet), so does not currently merit an article. -- McGeddon ( talk) 11:30, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Would you recommend the terms of "neoliberalism" or "neomarxism" or "meta-geopolitics" for deletion? Because, eventually, someone have invented them, and someone have provided their definition...somtmnes there cpuld many different defintions. So, what? Any body is accepted to add/update defintions.
SOTIRIS CRETE (
talk)
11:11, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Resposne to user Kolbasz: SOTIRIS CRETE ( talk) 10:57, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- 1. Please provide the "handful of hits" with definitions. And in any case, if someone else can provide an additional definition, this would be very much accepted. SOTIRIS CRETE ( talk) 10:57, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- 2. You would recommend deleting the terms of "neoliberalism" or "neomarxism" or "metageopoltics" when they appeared for first time? SOTIRIS CRETE ( talk) 10:57, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Appreciated the good comments/critic.
- Speedy Userfy - this article is clearly incomplete (lede asks for more help) and creator needs assistance learning referencing. A search reveals this term used by multiple people in politcal science. [1], [2], [3]. It was used as far back as 1967 by Canadian James George Eayrs ( [4] snippet view, but says... "Neo-geopolitics was made in U.S.A., more exactly, made in Princeton, with some assistance from the University of Pennsylvania. And for Americans, neo-geopolitics was a comforting doctrine...") This term was not invented by article creator, who should be given time to work on the article before submitting it for approval once sufficient sources are there. —Мандичка YO 😜 13:33, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 22:29, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 22:29, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JAaron95 ( Talk) 16:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JAaron95 ( Talk) 16:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
- Speedy Userfy The term is out there being used. More research is needed to determine of it has a stable enough meaning to be "notable" for a WP article. Then a better article can be prepared. Borock ( talk) 18:31, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
- Delete or Userfy. An unreferenced statement like
"Neo-Geo" is the "geopolitics of smartphones"
seems like OR to me. Liz Read! Talk! 21:59, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.