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The result was keep. Consensus is not clear between "keep" and "merge," so please continue to discuss on the talk page whether this should be merged. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:48, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
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I had prodded this one back in 2015 but the tag was removed by an IP stating "because this is the only decent article about her". In that time there has been little to no improvement to the article to show how she is notable as a person. Her work Cat Soup is notable but per WP:NOTINHERITED there is not enough coverage about her to meet WP:GNG. Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 02:50, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 02:54, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
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- Keep The Comics Journal calls her "one of the alt-manga icons of the decade" (two of her works have been included in English alternate manga compilations Comics Underground Japan and Sake Jock). It links to a translated remembrance from Jisatsu Sarechatta Boku by Yoshiaki Yoshinaga that includes many biographical details. THEM also mentions that she "had made headlines for the first time in 1998, when she committed suicide", so that might be another angle to investigate. A column in Viz's Pulp also seems to be written about her; the available Google Books excerpt says: "On May 10 of this year, a manga artist committed suicide. She called herself Nekojiru, a combination of 'cat' and 'sweat,' but there was really no deep meaning behind the unusual pen name"... This spanish VICE article gives an overview of her at the beginning. The Visual Narrative Reader offers the brief observation that she "often placed her characters in cruel situations." Opencooper ( talk) 03:38, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
RedirectMerge to Cat Soup That's her most notable work and the other ones Neko Dango, etc. are variants of it that can fit in that article. Cat Soup can describe her origins and development of the series. It can also briefly describe her suicide as to why there won't be more follow-ups. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 04:23, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- In that case it would be Merge, wouldn't it? --
Mr. Magoo and McBarker (
talk)
04:33, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, good point. Thanks. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 05:25, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- In that case it would be Merge, wouldn't it? --
Mr. Magoo and McBarker (
talk)
04:33, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Keep/Merge: This is a stubby article, and could do with some references, but it is not a throwaway one-liner, and it tells the story of the creator of a "WP:significant" work, so I think deleting it would be vandalism. Keep for now; if someone were to merge it skillfully into the "Cat Soup" article, well that's fine too. Imaginatorium ( talk) 09:03, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Merge and Redirect to
Cat Soup. I'm seeing this as a situation for which
WP:NOPAGE applies. AngusWoof's argument convinces me that a merge and redirect is the right approach here.
NewYorkActuary (
talk)
21:51, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
- I would have no objection to this if someone decides they want to undertake the procedure. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 22:00, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
- The subject article has large amounts of what appears to be original research, and very little of the rest is sourced or, in some cases, even particularly relevant. I've merged the small amount of usable content into a new "Background" section in the target article Cat Soup. Someone knowledgeable about the topic ought to take a look at it. NewYorkActuary ( talk) 18:38, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- Keep so Merge if needed as this is questionable for a separate article. SwisterTwister talk 22:57, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Onel5969 TT me 02:14, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Onel5969 TT me 02:14, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Consensus is not clear between "keep" and "merge," so please continue to discuss on the talk page whether this should be merged. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:48, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
- Nekojiru ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
I had prodded this one back in 2015 but the tag was removed by an IP stating "because this is the only decent article about her". In that time there has been little to no improvement to the article to show how she is notable as a person. Her work Cat Soup is notable but per WP:NOTINHERITED there is not enough coverage about her to meet WP:GNG. Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 02:50, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 02:54, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 02:54, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Keep The Comics Journal calls her "one of the alt-manga icons of the decade" (two of her works have been included in English alternate manga compilations Comics Underground Japan and Sake Jock). It links to a translated remembrance from Jisatsu Sarechatta Boku by Yoshiaki Yoshinaga that includes many biographical details. THEM also mentions that she "had made headlines for the first time in 1998, when she committed suicide", so that might be another angle to investigate. A column in Viz's Pulp also seems to be written about her; the available Google Books excerpt says: "On May 10 of this year, a manga artist committed suicide. She called herself Nekojiru, a combination of 'cat' and 'sweat,' but there was really no deep meaning behind the unusual pen name"... This spanish VICE article gives an overview of her at the beginning. The Visual Narrative Reader offers the brief observation that she "often placed her characters in cruel situations." Opencooper ( talk) 03:38, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
RedirectMerge to Cat Soup That's her most notable work and the other ones Neko Dango, etc. are variants of it that can fit in that article. Cat Soup can describe her origins and development of the series. It can also briefly describe her suicide as to why there won't be more follow-ups. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 04:23, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- In that case it would be Merge, wouldn't it? --
Mr. Magoo and McBarker (
talk)
04:33, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, good point. Thanks. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 05:25, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- In that case it would be Merge, wouldn't it? --
Mr. Magoo and McBarker (
talk)
04:33, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Keep/Merge: This is a stubby article, and could do with some references, but it is not a throwaway one-liner, and it tells the story of the creator of a "WP:significant" work, so I think deleting it would be vandalism. Keep for now; if someone were to merge it skillfully into the "Cat Soup" article, well that's fine too. Imaginatorium ( talk) 09:03, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Merge and Redirect to
Cat Soup. I'm seeing this as a situation for which
WP:NOPAGE applies. AngusWoof's argument convinces me that a merge and redirect is the right approach here.
NewYorkActuary (
talk)
21:51, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
- I would have no objection to this if someone decides they want to undertake the procedure. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 22:00, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
- The subject article has large amounts of what appears to be original research, and very little of the rest is sourced or, in some cases, even particularly relevant. I've merged the small amount of usable content into a new "Background" section in the target article Cat Soup. Someone knowledgeable about the topic ought to take a look at it. NewYorkActuary ( talk) 18:38, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- Keep so Merge if needed as this is questionable for a separate article. SwisterTwister talk 22:57, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Onel5969 TT me 02:14, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Onel5969 TT me 02:14, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.